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charged86 04-12-2013 11:07 PM

whiteline rear subframe inserts
 
Has anyone installed the rear subframe bushing inserts from whiteline? Like installed them yourself. I attempted. Got the rear mounts but it was easy. I only loosened the rear subframebolts with rear of car on jack stands Seemed like its too hard to do laying on your back with one jack lowering the rear subframe to do the front two.

20valvewynn83 04-12-2013 11:36 PM

I don't recommend doing this with out a lift as it is hard to re- align the rear end after you remove the bolts. Last thing you want is the whole rear end to fall off.

mrk1 04-13-2013 12:14 AM

Why would the rear end fall off? Either the bolts go in or they dont. I did my BRZ inserts on the ground but my 08 STI on a lift. Didn't see to much difference.

UncleFester 04-13-2013 12:25 AM

Put mine in using a jack and stands. Was easy. Took about 30 minutes.

D1cker 05-15-2013 07:55 PM

I did it on a lift because I could, but it's pretty easy. Just follow the instructions from whiteline.

Calum 05-17-2013 01:37 PM

I just finished doing mine. I did it with the car on ramps. I did have to jack up one side at a time to give clearance to get the front bushings installed, but all in the all, it went well.

I did run into one snag, but it didn't have anything to do with the parts from Whiteline or the instructions. One of my factory threaded holes felt like it had been cross threaded for the first two or three threads. The bolt kept skipping to the side so I had to clean that up before I could continue. All in all it took me about 1.5 hours to install these and the diff inserts.

ATL BRZ 05-17-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 862027)
Has anyone installed the rear subframe bushing inserts from whiteline? Like installed them yourself. I attempted. Got the rear mounts but it was easy. I only loosened the rear subframebolts with rear of car on jack stands Seemed like its too hard to do laying on your back with one jack lowering the rear subframe to do the front two.

I followed this DIY which is WAY better than what Whiteline includes: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20920

I did have a drive-on lift which made it easier. It's imperative that you jack the subframe/diff at the points dictated (subframe crossbar for the rear and diff for the front) in the DIY. Otherwise the subframe assy won't align properly to get the bolts re-threaded. Just follow the steps exactly. To install the fronts you'll need to loosen (NOT remove) the rear bolts again and have the subframe hanging down a bit to allow the front make enough clearance to get the front bushings in when you're jacking up the sides.

Take your time. You DO NOT want to cross thread those bolts. Any abnormal threading resistance at all, STOP and back them out and realign the subframe properly. Use a flashlight to shine up in there and find the holes.

7thgear 05-17-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 862075)
I don't recommend doing this with out a lift as it is hard to re- align the rear end after you remove the bolts. Last thing you want is the whole rear end to fall off.

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Calum 05-17-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 941781)

WTF?

charged86 05-17-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 941739)
I followed this DIY which is WAY better than what Whiteline includes: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20920

I did have a drive-on lift which made it easier. It's imperative that you jack the subframe/diff at the points dictated (subframe crossbar for the rear and diff for the front) in the DIY. Otherwise the subframe assy won't align properly to get the bolts re-threaded. Just follow the steps exactly. To install the fronts you'll need to loosen (NOT remove) the rear bolts again and have the subframe hanging down a bit to allow the front make enough clearance to get the front bushings in when you're jacking up the sides.

Take your time. You DO NOT want to cross thread those bolts. Any abnormal threading resistance at all, STOP and back them out and realign the subframe properly. Use a flashlight to shine up in there and find the holes.

Took the car to my friends shop. Both bolts on the driver side were almost cross threaded. You couldn't even thread them back in by hand passenger side you could. We decided they were cross threaded from the factory

ATL BRZ 05-17-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 942006)
Took the car to my friends shop. Both bolts on the driver side were almost cross threaded. You couldn't even thread them back in by hand passenger side you could. We decided they were cross threaded from the factory

I highly doubt they were cross threaded from the factory.

They likely got messed up when you installed the rear bushings by not properly supporting the subframe and/or not letting the subframe rest on the partially threaded rear bolts to install the front bushings. There should be little to no resistance threading the bolts if the subframe is properly supported/aligned.

Check this thread out from another forum member who unfortunately cross threaded those bolts. It's easy to do if you aren't being careful.

Good luck.

Calum 05-17-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 942033)
I highly doubt they were cross threaded from the factory.

They likely got messed up when you installed the rear bushings by not properly supporting the subframe and/or not letting the subframe rest on the partially threaded rear bolts to install the front bushings. There should be little to no resistance threading the bolts if the subframe is properly supported/aligned.

Check this thread out from another forum member who unfortunately cross threaded those bolts. It's easy to do if you aren't being careful.

Good luck.

I can't speak for the other people, but I know what I'm doing, and did it right. The first two to three threads on the passenger side forward hole were cross threaded, from the factory. Nobody else has had those bolts out, and the subframe alignment was checked before I tried to thread the bolt in. I had to hold the ratchet in place to prevent the bolt from skipping to the side. When I first noticed it, I rechecked the alignment and it was spot on.

I saw the thread you mentioned and started getting that sinking feeling the minute I saw the bolt go crocked. Not a good feeling.

charged86 05-17-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 942033)
I highly doubt they were cross threaded from the factory.

They likely got messed up when you installed the rear bushings by not properly supporting the subframe and/or not letting the subframe rest on the partially threaded rear bolts to install the front bushings. There should be little to no resistance threading the bolts if the subframe is properly supported/aligned.

Check this thread out from another forum member who unfortunately cross threaded those bolts. It's easy to do if you aren't being careful.

Good luck.

And I highly doubt your correct. Ive been modifying cars since 95 and gocart racing with my dad from 87 to 93. But thanks though

ATL BRZ 05-17-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 942588)
And I highly doubt your correct. Ive been modifying cars since 95 and gocart racing with my dad from 87 to 93. But thanks though

:iono: Just trying to help. Sorry if I sounded condescending. Hope you get it sorted out. The bushings are worth the trouble to install.


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