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Nourdmrolnmt1 04-11-2013 08:35 PM

Paint Thickness Measurements, Galaxy Blue
 
Roof of car, this is in the lower area, the raised area is thicker by 20-30%
http://i.imgur.com/j13i9cs.jpg

Hood of car
http://i.imgur.com/rCdkV6B.jpg

Front Bumper, nice and thin
http://i.imgur.com/klM5s2B.jpg

Driver Side Mirror, nice and thick, also horrendous orange peel
http://i.imgur.com/T65ecXr.jpg

Overall, the car was between 100-140 microns.

Marc @ AutoLavish is describing the paint as phenomenal quality and some of the thickest he has seen in a long time on a new car.

ShoNUFF 04-11-2013 09:48 PM

How does this compare to other cars? BMW, Ferrari, etc....

Nourdmrolnmt1 04-11-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoNUFF (Post 859140)
How does this compare to other cars? BMW, Ferrari, etc....

Ferrari's paint sucks

BMW's are in the 100-150 range
CTS-V is in the 130-160 range

chulooz 04-11-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nourdmrolnmt1 (Post 859151)
Ferrari's paint sucks

BMW's are in the 100-150 range
CTS-V is in the 130-160 range

Given the fact they use a cera-clear coat their products are incomparable, you dont treat that the same.

kbye 04-12-2013 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 859182)
Given the fact they use a cera-clear coat their products are incomparable, you dont treat that the same.

@chulooz is right, and even if you do look at paint thickness, ferrari's paint thickness is par with most luxury cars if not better.

http://belladetailing.com/Ferrari2.html

Here you can see the average paint thickness on a 458 italia was 5.4 mils, or 137.2 microns. Lamborghini usually applies the thickest paint but they are also the most inconsistent, ranging from 250 - 700 microns.

Bottom line you can't judge paint quality solely on thickness. All the ft86 members complaining about their numerous paint chips can attest to that :thumbsup:

Nourdmrolnmt1 04-12-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subarudood (Post 859834)
Subarus are not on the high side for paint thickness by any means, and the paint is not very durable say compared to a vw/audi/lexus. If you want to learn more about it it the guy who does the posting from detailersdomain is pretty good.

I'm fairly certain Marc @ Auto Lavish is as good as detailers domain.

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Marcoscrdo 04-12-2013 01:34 PM

Yeah i feel like we got good paint. I hit a car by accident (long story but wasnt me it was the fucking wind that swung my door wide open hard) and it left a huge white line on the car and my car just had a tiny little chip along the side of my door like a dot size.

ashtray 04-12-2013 02:14 PM

Subaru uses lighter paint coats for weight reduction. Also, Lamborghinis need some addition layers of protection from stone chips at 190mph... :D

What's the thickness of the Subaru paint around the rocker panels - say about the height of an orange cone? That's probably where we need it most. :D

Turbowned 04-12-2013 05:08 PM

Thanks for posting this! I'm sure they aren't going to be the same across the board, but it's good to at least get an idea.

I wonder how much wet sanding we could get away with to try and reduce the heinous amount of orange peel present on these cars...

SkAsphalt 04-12-2013 05:44 PM

The paint quality on these cars is shit. my 1996 mustang and my 2004 corolla have fewer paint chips than my car that has only 6000km on it

dem00n 04-12-2013 06:52 PM

The paints fine, my car is just going through its acne period like i did.

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/t...psf2cb6db0.jpg

I will not cry...

Nourdmrolnmt1 04-12-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subarudood (Post 861138)
Maybe not if you think Subaru paint is quality. It's shit, talk to any subaru guy.

@DetailersDomain input?

Not Subaru paint in general. BRZ paint.

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Nourdmrolnmt1 04-12-2013 10:33 PM

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/13/e2abajej.jpg

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Longhorn248 04-13-2013 01:35 AM

I've got an adhesion test kit at work if someone wants to scratch up their paint to find out what adhesion quality it comes in at? :)

I've only got a chip or two in my paint on the hood where there isn't clear film installed. No big deal, it's a car, it's meant to be driven!

Turbowned 04-13-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 862315)
No big deal, it's a car, it's meant to be driven!

Not to point fingers at you personally, but I'm sick and tired of hearing this. If I wanted a car with paint chips I'd buy a f**king used car.

Swift 04-13-2013 03:17 PM

^yeah this is a joke. I don't know if a lemon law could apply but something needs to be done.

Longhorn248 04-14-2013 08:33 PM

Do your cars look like golf balls with paint chips all over or something? I've got almost 12k miles on mine and I've noticed a single chip that was the direct result of driving behind a semi with a trailer full of gravel. Haven't had any issues with normal driving locations.

jmaryt 04-15-2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 862964)
Not to point fingers at you personally, but I'm sick and tired of hearing this. If I wanted a car with paint chips I'd buy a f**king used car.

you have a point,and the culprit is?....ta da!.."'water based paint"
blame the f**kin' "greenies" paint sucks period! it's too soft,and applied very thin too!

glorydays 04-17-2013 11:40 PM

well if thats true it explains a lot. Seems I'll be needing a respray in about 10,000 miles...

VTRTWIN 04-18-2013 04:27 PM

So, if the Sooby's paint is on the thinnish side, what product is out there to afford added protection that is worth getting? I am about to pull the trigger on a black BRZ and want the paint to last and not get full of swirls. I was going to wait for the 14's, but am losing my mind watching the 13's roll into and out of the dealer lot, so I need to figure out sooner than later what might be out there that would help the paint/finish last.

rawbz 04-18-2013 04:48 PM

I'm by no means a professional (and can only dream of justifying a paint thickness measurer) but my experience is from polishing a VW GTI and my BRZ one after the other. Using the same product, same pads, similar light haze in the GTI's paint required at least another pass to get to the same result. It just seemed like the subaru clear was much softer.

I know I know, not scientific evidence but I'm sure many others who have worked on different brands would agree. But I am glad to see such a decent paint thickness just curious how many more times I can safely do a thorough polish.


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