Forza--I know you are trying to not rise to the bait, but at the same time, you make a pretty compelling claim there that would have some pretty far-reaching consequences if it would be proven and explained.

Calling someone "ignorant" without providing a single sentence of explanation, other than your "friend" has done it twice, is a weak attempt at justification at best.
@ib raised a legitimate question--Please, cite your source.

I did this twice and got off with a warning on both occasions. Apologize and admit that you were wrong. That's about it

Check the contest/not guilty box, show up to court, most of these (especially first offenses) end up nollied out. If it were a speeding ticket you'd probably end up with a reduced fine for first time visit to court. Court isn't like on TV...you wait in a line and sit with a magistrate who will ask you some questions (did you take off work today, always answer YES), why do you think we should contest it (don't mention the data issue, just say you stopped but didn't fully apply the brake b/c you downshifted, so the brake lights probably weren't visible, then you made a cautioned turn). Wear slacks/khakis and a shirt with a collar to court.

Just to go slightly off-topic, it amazes me how completely stupid people can be about dressing in court. I've heard stories about how someone showed up to court in ripped-up jeans and a hoodie, and had a speeding ticket turned into a week long jail sentence because he didn't show any respect to the court and looked like a hoodlum. :slap:

pay ticket. the end.

wow seriously? the scion is under the toyota corporation. jesus christ /smmfh

Haha for sure, man. I did and it is the u.s. constitution :D

Great, you just did the equivalent of flashing a textbook at us. Please do some work and cite the specific section and paragraph. Sentence, if you are feeling particularly motivated. Though part of me doubts you will bother.

I'm waiting...:popcorn:

I have a way better idea. Do some work for yourself. If you are so interested, go and figure it out on your own :thumbsup: I have done so and I am thoroughly convinced, why? because I did proper research, consulted with the right people and came to my own conclusion of the actual truth. Writing it out will not do justice, that is why I consulted with attorneys face to face. I simply made a side note and planted a seed.

I must have made an impression on you, however, so I appreciate the flattery. If you are feeling particularly motivated to enlighten yourself you should DEFINITELY do so, on your own. Though part of me doubt you will bother...

I am happy I was able to influence you and spark such an interest!

But I am not waiting because I am already ahead... :burnrubber:

peace & love.

he just made an "honest mistake" transferring the info to the ticket.
he still did see the infraction unfortunately,and he's prepared to testify to that fact. pay the ticket! you did the deed!

This is the most ridiculous thread ever. It's a minor violation, pay the goddamn ticket. Citing the Constitution to fight a traffic citation is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

I just found this website: https://www.ticketsbite.com. The idea is so intriguing that I might just sign up for this. If I had known earlier, I wouldn't have had mounted my front plates. :D

^^ won't work with vehicle code violations.

Plus I'm not paying a premium on top of my insurance premium when all I have to do is be a better driver.

Regarding the speeding is unconstitutional thing:

I'm guessing this has to do with the whole not all speed limit signs are legal thing I heard a few years ago.

To the OP:

Just pay the ticket.

I don't think the info on the ticket regarding the make/model is going to affect anything.. It's close enough...
You failed to stop, and got caught... It happens.. Pay the fine and move on...
If someone slammed into you for not stopping at a stop sign... You would think differently about things... I hate getting tickets.. I have had my fair share.. Each one was well deserved...
Good luck..