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gbgracer 03-26-2013 06:39 PM

No Squeal Track Pad?
 
Is there a trackable pad that doesn't squeal for daily driving? Just occasional track days.

Dave-ROR 03-26-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gbgracer (Post 820060)
Is there a trackable pad that doesn't squeal for daily driving? Just occasional track days.

Probably bedded a number of them won't, Carbotech XP10 at least included. They were silent on my car for thousands of street miles.

D1cker 03-26-2013 06:50 PM

Xp10's are relatively quiet, but nothing is going to be completely silent.

Dave-ROR 03-26-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by D1cker (Post 820082)
Xp10's are relatively quiet, but nothing is going to be completely silent.

ok at 1mph they went "squeak" :)

D1cker 03-26-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 820087)
ok at 1mph they went "squeak" :)

Just like the XP10's I used to run on my miata :thumbsup:

GTM_Challenge 03-26-2013 07:23 PM

XP8 on my miata were fine the first few days after the track. Then they started to make some noise when coming to a complete stop.

HP+ made noise on the S2000 and those aren't really a full track pad. Cobalt XR2 and XR1 made noise on the s2000, Hawk HT10 and DTC60/70 all made noise.

I don't think there is such thing as a completely silent track pad that won't made noise after properly being bedded on track, but then being used for extended time on the street between track events. They will also likely dust like a mofo on the street.

CSG Mike 03-26-2013 09:11 PM

Most track pads will pass "the girl test" after proper bedding. Carbotech XP10s are our most popular pad for the FR-S/BRZ, followed by the Club Racer.

gbgracer 03-26-2013 10:49 PM

What about Carbotech XP8's. Is that enough pad for the occasional track day? I'm running Michelin Super Sports in 225/45/17 so grippier than stock but not R comps. Plus, they will be for lapping days only. No autocross or TT's

I am an active racer w/SCCA so I will drive the car hard but I also know how to be gentle(relatively speaking on brakes)

Dave-ROR 03-26-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gbgracer (Post 820612)
What about Carbotech XP8's. Is that enough pad for the occasional track day? I'm running Michelin Super Sports in 225/45/17 so grippier than stock but not R comps. Plus, they will be for lapping days only. No autocross or TT's

I am an active racer w/SCCA so I will drive the car hard but I also know how to be gentle(relatively speaking on brakes)

You'll probably exceed their MOT if you are pushing it honestly...

orthojoe 03-26-2013 11:07 PM

There's no such thing as best of both worlds. Swap in/out street/track pads. You'll save more money in the long run and will totally happy with street/track performance.

fwiw, the project mu club racer pads squeak on the street, but it's not very loud. A very light mousey squeak, not ear piercing like some pads. Keep in mind that running a track pad on the street is harsh on your rotors since the pads can never get up to proper working temp. People use track pads to clear off pad deposits on the street since they are very abrasive when cold.

JRitt 03-27-2013 12:00 PM

IMO these pads would be about as close as you can get to a hybrid street/track pad right now:

Ferodo DS2500
CL Brakes RC5+
Endless MX72

Out of those, the Endless MX72 is the quietest.

I can put any of these in your hands if you're interested.:happy0180:

NorseLegend 03-27-2013 12:12 PM

Maybe some StopTech stuff? I'm looking at a set of pads and rotors

CSG Mike 03-27-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NorseLegend (Post 821722)
Maybe some StopTech stuff?

Unfortunately, as previous stated, there is no "best of both worlds". Stoptech makes a great street product, but not a great mixed duty product.

JRitt 03-27-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 821729)
Unfortunately, as previous stated, there is no "best of both worlds". Stoptech makes a great street product, but not a great mixed duty product.

Agree with this 100%. Their branded street pads are just that, street pads. There are many folks who have tried to use them on the tracks and have had all sorts of uneven pad deposits, judder, etc. They just don't have the max operating temps required for track use.


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