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GoSharks 04-18-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcoden (Post 864296)
If the weather is nice, I'm going to Zaino my fr-s for the first time today! Been using the stuff for over 10 years.

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Love Zaino as well. I have used it since 2002. Great shine and lasts a long time.

radroach 04-18-2013 02:03 PM

I don't like to usr carnauba waxes anymore, I think they're old technology. I like to use polymer waxes like McGuiar's ultimate wax

tuckdaddy 04-18-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 874978)
I don't like to usr carnauba waxes anymore, I think they're old technology. I like to use polymer waxes like McGuiar's ultimate wax

Explain old technology? A carnauba will have a much deeper wetter shine than a polymer.

I use a carnauba (Adams patriot paste wax) on top of a glaze (adams brilliant glaze) and polymer sealant (Adams machine super sealant). Much better look and more durable with the sealant underneath.

russv 04-18-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tuckdaddy (Post 875001)
Explain old technology? A carnauba will have a much deeper wetter shine than a polymer.

I use a carnauba (Adams patriot paste wax) on top of a glaze (adams brilliant glaze) and polymer sealant (Adams machine super sealant). Much better look and more durable with the sealant underneath.

I do the same with Maguiar glaze and sealant with Collinite 915 carnuba. Incredible look.

radroach 04-18-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tuckdaddy (Post 875001)
Explain old technology? A carnauba will have a much deeper wetter shine than a polymer.

Simple, carnauba waxes are formulas that have been used for decades, from when car finishes were single stage jobs and a lot easier to polish.

With factory clear coats being much softer and less resilient and less easier to detail, I prefer a polymer like Meguiar's Ultimate Wax because they wipe off easier when dried. Compare that to a pure carnauba wax like Meguiar's #16, which was super hard to remove and probably put light scratches in the finish due to having to wipe more aggressively.

The reason why the carnauba wax you're talking about looks wetter and deeper is because your wax (probably something like Gold Class or similar) has pure polish oils added to it. This makes it even more of a job to wipe off since you're also chasing polishing oils around. Compared to Gold Class (carnauba), Ultimate Wax (polymer) is half the work required when wiping it off. *edit* sorry just read your whole post and saw you use different products, but pretty similar situation with what I'm talking about.

tuckdaddy 04-18-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 875661)
Simple, carnauba waxes are formulas that have been used for decades, from when car finishes were single stage jobs and a lot easier to polish.

With factory clear coats being much softer and less resilient and less easier to detail, I prefer a polymer like Meguiar's Ultimate Wax because they wipe off easier when dried. Compare that to a pure carnauba wax like Meguiar's #16, which was super hard to remove and probably put light scratches in the finish due to having to wipe more aggressively.

The reason why the carnauba wax you're talking about looks wetter and deeper is because your wax (probably something like Gold Class or similar) has pure polish oils added to it. This makes it even more of a job to wipe off since you're also chasing polishing oils around. Compared to Gold Class (carnauba), Ultimate Wax (polymer) is half the work required when wiping it off. *edit* sorry just read your whole post and saw you use different products, but pretty similar situation with what I'm talking about.

Just all depends on what carnauba your using I guess and conditions when you apply it. I have no trouble and literally just drag the towel across to pull the wax off after having applied it. Too many variables. Understand it's been around for decades and is "old technology" doesn't mean it worse than polymer although ill admit I use a system of carnauba ad polymer for a concours quality finish

Xdragonxb0i 04-22-2013 01:51 AM

what do you guys recommend to use with 3m clear bra?

tuckdaddy 04-22-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i (Post 882110)
what do you guys recommend to use with 3m clear bra?

I just use a cheaper liquid wax I'm assuming the clear bra is on the front and since the front bumper takes a eating compared to the test of the car no sense in dropping more expensive than you need onto it.

Adams buttery wax is what I use

Justin.b 04-22-2013 11:57 AM

I don't know if this is common with pro detailers, but I know some of the home guys who prefer the look of carnauba wax will actually apply a polymer sealer like blackfire and then 'top' it with a coat of their favorite carnauba.

-Justin

smbstyle 04-24-2013 11:49 PM

Poorboy's World EX (wax and sealant) if I'm feeling lazy, otherwise Poorboy's World EX-P (sealant only) topped with Poorboy's World Natty Paste Wax (carnuba wax).

I've had good luck with all of their products; their trim restorer is really good for the black plastics, and their Super Swirl Removers work really well on my rotary. However I like to experiment with different products, and am going to try out the Optimum products next.

Honestly, pick whatever is on sale on autogeek.net, I've never found a product on their site that isn't decent. A lot of it is personal preference. I chalk this discussion up there with the "what brand oil to use" threads.

radroach 04-25-2013 12:34 AM

After the tail of the dragon run I had my GBS BRZ washed, clay, and cleaned / polished using a dual action polisher with meguiar's DA microfiber system polishes.

I use Meguiar's Ultimate Wax. It's a polymer wax, and has good results, and very easy to remove, which is easier on the car's finish. It costs about $20, and the kit includes a foam applicator and high quality microfiber towel. I use a quick detailer spray and that also helps with the final buff using a microfiber towel.

5th 86 04-25-2013 11:33 AM

Swissvax makes amazing carnubas but quite expensive, application and removal is so easy and it smells so nice

Clembo 04-26-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 5th 86 (Post 890231)
Swissvax makes amazing carnubas but quite expensive, application and removal is so easy and it smells so nice

Whew, I guess they are expensive, at least the special formulations. Would love to try the one made especially for my car but I can think of better uses for $3500!

n2oinferno 04-26-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 889500)
I use Meguiar's Ultimate Wax. It's a polymer wax, and has good results, and very easy to remove, which is easier on the car's finish. It costs about $20, and the kit includes a foam applicator and high quality microfiber towel. I use a quick detailer spray and that also helps with the final buff using a microfiber towel.

This is what I've been using for the past year or so with great results, except I use my GG ROP to put it on. I washed the Camry a few weeks ago and had a sample of their Ultimate Quik Wax so I gave that a shot instead. I wasn't expecting much, but I really think that's going to be my go-to wax for quick jobs now. Very easy application and I actually forgot about it until it rained the other day and the water was still beading up nicely. It does seem to have some fillers too, so if there are any minor swirls those will disappear temporarily. Overall it gets a thumbs up in my book.


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