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Ribface 01-05-2012 07:49 PM

Subaru/Scion warranty and autocross
 
If you are planning on autocrossing your 86/BRZ you should be aware of the following:

Subaru Warranty does not cover any Damage Caused Due to Use of Vehicle in Competitive Events
https://www.subaru.com/my-subaru/warranties-2011.html

Basically this mean if you attend one autocross and your gearbox fail 5,000 miles later, you might be out of luck.

And yes some manufacturers/dealerships do actively seek that type of information.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20040705/FREE/407050725

Scion Warranty on the other hand apparently doesn't have such an exclusion, of course any failure that can be linked to an aftermarket part will void the warranty. Linked being a keyword, for example aftermarket shocks would not void your warranty if the the gearbox broke.
I got it this info from a Scion (Canada) rep but I would appreciate it if someone could confirm this.

VenomRush 01-05-2012 07:56 PM

that makes sense, guess you gotta take the good with the bad, i dont plan on doing anything to my car until its fully paid for, eh maybe wheels and tint

Jeff Lange 01-05-2012 08:04 PM

In all of my time working at Toyota/Scion, I can't recall a single time we ever denied warranty to a customer because they used their vehicle competitively in the past. Unless it was apparent that what they did actually caused the damage to the car, which is what most of the statements from the various automakers in that article are saying.

What happened with that Evo/Mitsubishi is an interesting read... not sure how I feel about that.

Jeff

Slide 01-05-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomRush (Post 108105)
that makes sense, guess you gotta take the good with the bad, i dont plan on doing anything to my car until its fully paid for, eh maybe wheels and tint

Wheels can be linked to other things like diff, sus parts & break failures... I am sure they could link it to alot more if they wanted.

VenomRush 01-05-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slide (Post 108109)
Wheels can be linked to other things like diff, sus parts & break failures... I am sure they could link it to alot more if they wanted.

yea that makes sense, but i'll take my chances on wheels since i know i dont drive like a maniac

Ribface 01-05-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfawishes (Post 108172)
I wouldn't worry, plus how would they ever know you autocrossed it or tracked it?

Don't know about track, but for autocross they just have to check the Autocross results and check names against their customer list, like Mitsubishi did a few year back (Second link in my first post).
From what I heard another tactic of some Mitsubishi dealers was to actually send someone to note down license plate of any recent Evo present.

Of course the counter measure, and I have witnessed it a couple of times, is to sign up for the autocross with a fake name and remove the license plate.

Caliban 01-05-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfawishes (Post 108172)
Subaru replaced my brake pads for free under warranty with thunderhill tech inspection sticker on the car. I wouldn't worry, plus how would they ever know you autocrossed it or tracked it?

Subaru replaced your brake pads under warranty? I thought pads are wear and tear item?

miata 01-05-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ribface (Post 108101)
If you are planning on autocrossing your 86/BRZ you should be aware of the following:

Subaru Warranty does not cover any Damage Caused Due to Use of Vehicle in Competitive Events
https://www.subaru.com/my-subaru/warranties-2011.html

Basically this mean if you attend one autocross and your gearbox fail 5,000 miles later, you might be out of luck.

And yes some manufacturers/dealerships do actively seek that type of information.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20040705/FREE/407050725

Scion Warranty on the other hand apparently doesn't have such an exclusion, of course any failure that can be linked to an aftermarket part will void the warranty. Linked being a keyword, for example aftermarket shocks would not void your warranty if the the gearbox broke.
I got it this info from a Scion (Canada) rep but I would appreciate it if someone could confirm this.

I think that's because people do better in autoX with Subaru than with Scion. Scion was just embarrassed to say that they will void the warranty if autoX'd because then people will laugh at them for saying that because Scions get their a$$ kicked by Subarus and Miatas. But with the FRS coming, I am sure Scion will add that clause if they don't have it yet.

Ribface 01-05-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miata (Post 108219)
But with the FRS coming, I am sure Scion will add that clause if they don't have it yet.

I hope not, they have a contingency program in Canada
http://www.scion.ca/scion/lifestyle/racing

WolfpackS2k 01-06-2012 04:33 PM

HPDEs are untimed events and are thus technically not competitive events. So going to the track should be fine. Autox is a different situation, but one in which nothing should fail anyway.

ucla bruin 01-06-2012 05:36 PM

Yes, do not get timing and you will technically not be racing/competing.

Mr.Jay 01-06-2012 05:42 PM

awesome new infor for me.

there a perk for going with th Scion (other than not paying the I hate CND tax Subaru loves)


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