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sierra 03-17-2013 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedalincircles (Post 798309)
Was there a difference in sound with stock everything vs. the nameless downpipe w/ hemholtz?

Very good question!!!!
Missed that.:happy0180:

*KID* 03-17-2013 12:36 AM

Just sounds more sporty and throaty....very clean sound.

Sportsguy83 03-17-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl (Post 798265)
I think that's great then. +1 nameless is what i say, heck yah


I'm glad to finally see dyno results popping up

I want you to try an air filter drop in and tell me what happens, I have a drop in Perrin sitting for two weeks in a box in my garage. Im betting a trd or other drop in will help, too, I run one in wife's car on oe exhaust and she felt a difference.

Looks like she gonna get a helmholtz!

I am curious to know about filter. Wanna try it? I can send it to you at my expense, if you like it and you keep it I dunno slip me a $20 or buy me a few drinks. Lmk!


Congrats on the dyno results!

I would love to be able to help, but next time I'll be able to make it to the Dyno will be less than two weeks with FI kit installed :( (I can ask @raul who has Nameless exhaust to see if he is interested). What filter are we talking about?? (Hoping for the Works!!!) Most probably he would do it in a Dynojet because that Mustang Dyno was expensive :mad0260:


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Originally Posted by *KID* (Post 798285)
Looking at the results off the dynojet sheet... I made about the same with the motiv hfc and op. stock filter. I have a dyno sheet ill post when I get back home. After I got the tune it pulled 188hp. Oil temperatures were pretty high, considering I did a 4 hr drive to get it tuned...and I added a works drop in filter after that. I should be at about 190 now. Again ill post my dyno sheet later when I get home.


Those are very good numbers! The only comment I would add is that Mustangs read lower than Dynojet's, but nonetheless, those are awesome numbers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedalincircles (Post 798309)
Was there a difference in sound with stock everything vs. the nameless downpipe w/ hemholtz?


I really can't remember much how the car sounded stock as I went from Nameless full exhaust to removing the axleback and keeping the downpipe but I can say that it sounds louder inside the cabin. I believe outside the car its very similar to stock. All very nice type of sound, not annoying.

mad_sb 03-17-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 798004)
Mustang dyno should read lower than Dynojet, since you dyno more than most people's baseline with Dynojet I am thinking this mod probably gave you roughly 15-18whp. That's impressive, but I am curious how much it helps in the midrange.

you cannot compare one dyno to another like that. Your best bet would be to compare another stock vehicle on the same dyno, less prone to error than one dyno to another.

Sportsguy83 03-17-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 798690)
you cannot compare one dyno to another like that. Your best bet would be to compare another stock vehicle on the same dyno, less prone to error than one dyno to another.

Yes yes, I agree there is no baseline, all numbers are speculation. But a fact is Mustang dynos read lower than Dynojet Dynos, just the nature of the beast. I posted the picture with uncorrected and corrected numbers for weather conditions, so even though it is all speculation, we can get a ball park figure on where it is and Leemaster's guess is not far fetched BUT I wholeheartedly agree, there is no certainty based on this Dyno about exactly how much Nameless DP/OP gains, just ballpark figures.

Sportsguy83 03-17-2013 11:59 AM

Added more pics to OP

Craig 03-17-2013 12:32 PM

How does the nameless add so much more power than the motiv/invida/etc? From my understanding at the end of the day its the same diameter pipe with the same bends in the same places-am I wrong?

mad_sb 03-17-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 798848)
How does the nameless add so much more power than the motiv/invida/etc? From my understanding at the end of the day its the same diameter pipe with the same bends in the same places-am I wrong?

The nameless also replaces the overpipe and probably has a better cat (speculation of course).

Also the plot posted in post #3 from nameless is for the combo of the old axleback with the over / front pipe not just the Frontpipe alone with otherwise stock exhaust, or adding the over / front to the axleback. In other words if the stock catback is a bigger restriction that the front pipe, you would see a bigger gain from the front pipe AFTER replacing the catback than before replacing it.

I am running the catted, helmholtz, over/front pipe right now with otherwise stock exhaust. I am not going to bother going to the dyno again until I add the axleback. The sound is a little different, a bit more aggressive. But in all honesty, after the first few minutes of a cold start you would be VERY hard pressed to tell mine from stock.

So, it is louder during cold start, but once the idle kicks back down you can't tell a difference due to the stock catback.

Sportsguy83 03-17-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 798848)
How does the nameless add so much more power than the motiv/invida/etc? From my understanding at the end of the day its the same diameter pipe with the same bends in the same places-am I wrong?

Nameless OP/DP has different bends and makes the OP/DP into one piece. The point of this thread was not to advertise or showcase the Nameless DP/OP combo. My only intent was to get a baseline before getting a turbo. I was not going to bother getting the car up, raising the engine, etc. just to get a compelte stock baseline, so I only left that installed in the car and Dynoed it. It just so happens that the Dyno numbers came in that high. But like I made very clear in the OP, all numbers are just speculation because I dont have a real baseline number. Either way, numbers look impressive given it was a mustang Dyno but ALL speculation, nothing else.


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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 798984)
The nameless also replaces the overpipe and probably has a better cat (speculation of course).

Plus, I believe the plot posted is for the combo of the old axleback with the over / front pipe. Not the Frontpipe alone, or adding the over / front to the axleback. In other words if the stock catback is a bigger restriction that the front pipe, you would see a bigger gain from the front pipe AFTER replacing the catback than before replacing it.


Edit: Mad_sb was referring to the Nameles Dyno plot, not mine.

My car was with ONLY DP/OP everything else in the car was stock :D

vtmike 03-17-2013 02:46 PM

I think I remember reading somewhere from nameless that there isn't a power difference between the downpipe and downpipe overpipe combo. I also remember them saying the cat they use flows the same as an open 2.5" pipe and is rated for a 500 hp engine. So if there is a difference it may be that.

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mad_sb 03-17-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 799005)
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I stated it very clearly in the OP and in the response to Gem, the car is completely stock aside from the DP/OP. That means it was with stock axleback and everything else in the car.

Yeah man, not your plot from the original post, sorry for the confusion. The nameless plot from post #3 is the one i was talking about. :thumbsup: I edited my post for clarity, the plot from post #3 is for the combo of axleback and front / over pipe according to the nameless website.

Sportsguy83 03-17-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 799026)
Yeah man, not your plot from the original post, sorry for the confusion. The nameless plot from post #3 is the one i was talking about. :thumbsup: I edited my post for clarity, the plot from post #3 is for the combo of axleback and front / over pipe according to the nameless website.



Ohhh yes yes!! Nameless plot is with OP/DP AND Axleback :happy0180:

itwillboost 03-17-2013 08:04 PM

Good numbers, but wait till you have boosted numbers lol. Your going to beyond happy.

OrbitalEllipses 03-18-2013 12:40 AM

I have a baseline with ONLY the Nameless offset axleback. I just installed the over/downpipe with HFC and Helmholtz; I'll will go back to the EXACT dyno I got my baseline done on and provide the forum with those results.

Sound? Good god it's awesome.


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