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Bach415 03-16-2013 01:37 AM

Small rust spot look a like stain?
 
On my whiteout FRS, I noticed that there is a bunch of really small stain? that looks like rust about the size of a period on a size 12 Times New Roman font all over my car. They don't feel like any particle, like it's in formed inside the paint or something. I've only own the car for about 3 weeks and have washed it once every week. I just noticed them after the 3rd wash which is today. Is there any way to remove them? I will take pictures of it tomorrow in the afternoon when it's sunny and will also try clay barring them out.

whaap 03-16-2013 01:43 AM

If your car was ever transported on a train it will get rail dust. With time that dust turns to rust and it happens on all cars but is really only noticeable on white cars. Your dealer is very familiar with this happening and has the chemical wash to take care of it. The wash does not harm the paint or any other parts.

husker741 03-16-2013 01:45 AM

I'm not sure if this is the same problem, but here is a thread explaining something similar.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18949

Bach415 03-16-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by whaap (Post 796937)
If your car was ever transported on a train it will get rail dust. With time that dust turns to rust and it happens on all cars but is really only noticeable on white cars. Your dealer is very familiar with this happening and has the chemical wash to take care of it. The wash does not harm the paint or any other parts.

Should I just take it to the dealer then and ask them about it?

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Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 796942)
I'm not sure if this is the same problem, but here is a thread explaining something similar.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18949

Not the same problem. Those spots I've actually been able to take off easily. For mine, it actually looks like little speckles of rust.

suaveflooder 03-16-2013 02:20 AM

I have them too. They aren't really noticeable so I just ignore them. I have one on my bumper and a couple on the lips of all fender wells. I tried clay and it stayed. Oh well. My car is still sexy and she knows it :wub::party0030:

Bach415 03-16-2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by suaveflooder (Post 796985)
I have them too. They aren't really noticeable so I just ignore them. I have one on my bumper and a couple on the lips of all fender wells. I tried clay and it stayed. Oh well. My car is still sexy and she knows it :wub::party0030:

Glad to know I'm not the only one with these speckles. For mine, it's pretty noticeable. A bunch of em grouped up near the trunk lid on the rear bumper, some on quarter panels, and some on the doors. Surprisingly I removed some of em buy just using detailing spray + microfiber cloth. The hood, fender, and front bumper looks clean though without any. O.o

suaveflooder 03-16-2013 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bach415 (Post 796990)
Glad to know I'm not the only one with these speckles. For mine, it's pretty noticeable. A bunch of em grouped up near the trunk lid on the rear bumper, some on quarter panels, and some on the doors. Surprisingly I removed some of em buy just using detailing spray + microfiber cloth. The hood, fender, and front bumper looks clean though without any. O.o

weird. I wish mine would come off. Like I said, they are in pretty inconspicuous places on my car, so I just ignore them.

Bach415 03-16-2013 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by suaveflooder (Post 796997)
weird. I wish mine would come off. Like I said, they are in pretty inconspicuous places on my car, so I just ignore them.

Yeah. I'm going to do claybar tomorrow and if it still doesn't come off, I'm going to bring it to the dealer and see what it actually is. If it actually is rust, it should be covered under the rust-through coverage.

whaap 03-16-2013 08:41 AM

The dealer will take care of it. Like I said, they're very familiar with this problem.

Paul_S 03-16-2013 03:14 PM

If claying dosen't remove them then a decon product such as Iron-X will remove what I call rust blooms usually seen on white or light colored cars.These spots or on or just below the clear and are not related to rust from the inside out. I stay clear of the dealer unless it's for a recall of some type JMO.

Greg Nichols 03-16-2013 09:39 PM

DON'T TAKE IT TO THE DEALER THEY WILL MAKE MORE OF A MESS THAN YOU WANT.

I would try the IronX treatement.

clay can help but sometimes it just sheers off the iron, and some remains in the paint, so the yellow speckle will come back until you get it all.

Cheers,
GREG

Bach415 03-17-2013 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by whaap (Post 797187)
The dealer will take care of it. Like I said, they're very familiar with this problem.

Dealer didn't even take care of it. They wanted to charge me for clay barring the car to get rid of it.

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Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 797573)
If claying dosen't remove them then a decon product such as Iron-X will remove what I call rust blooms usually seen on white or light colored cars.These spots or on or just below the clear and are not related to rust from the inside out. I stay clear of the dealer unless it's for a recall of some type JMO.

Claying actually got rid of the rust blooms.

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Originally Posted by Greg Nichols (Post 798111)
DON'T TAKE IT TO THE DEALER THEY WILL MAKE MORE OF A MESS THAN YOU WANT.

I would try the IronX treatement.

clay can help but sometimes it just sheers off the iron, and some remains in the paint, so the yellow speckle will come back until you get it all.

Cheers,
GREG

I'll check out the IronX treatment next time it comes back. Thanks

whaap 03-17-2013 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bach415 (Post 798389)
Dealer didn't even take care of it. They wanted to charge me for clay barring the car

I would be all over corporate on that one. Removing rail rust is nothing more than PDI work preparing the car for delivery. It doesn't require clay bar work. As I said earlier in this thread, they have a mild acid wash that is not harmful to the finish and takes about as long as washing a car.

Bach415 03-17-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by whaap (Post 798396)
I would be all over corporate on that one. Removing rail rust is nothing more than PDI work preparing the car for delivery. It doesn't require clay bar work. As I said earlier in this thread, they have a mild acid wash that is not harmful to the finish and takes about as long as washing a car.

According to the service guys, it's my responsibility to clean the car as its something that happens from being near trains/rail road. And that since I haven't noticed it til last Friday and had the car washed and it wasn't there before.

whaap 03-17-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bach415 (Post 798939)
According to the service guys, it's my responsibility to clean the car as its something that happens from being near trains/rail road. And that since I haven't noticed it til last Friday and had the car washed and it wasn't there before.

The rail dust WAS there before. It didn't turn to rust until it mixed with moisture (water). I wouldn't roll over on this. I'd talk to the service or general manager of the dealership. If that didn't work, I'd go to corporate and, even if nothing ends up being accomplished, make a complaint.

Paul_S 03-17-2013 05:37 PM

Like Greg and I have posted. Clay and Iron-X your car for under 50 bucks. You will know it has then been done correctly and will have the product for future corrections. Problem solved. The aggravation saved by not messing with a dealer is priceless.

Bach415 03-17-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whaap (Post 799203)
The rail dust WAS there before. It didn't turn to rust until it mixed with moisture (water). I wouldn't roll over on this. I'd talk to the service or general manager of the dealership. If that didn't work, I'd go to corporate and, even if nothing ends up being accomplished, make a complaint.

Well, if it's still there, then I'll complain because I've clay barred some out and some starts to appear out of nowhere. Going to be visiting the dealer again tomorrow morning regarding condensation in taillights.

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Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 799215)
Like Greg and I have posted. Clay and Iron-X your car for under 50 bucks. You will know it has then been done correctly and will have the product for future corrections. Problem solved. The aggravation saved by not messing with a dealer is priceless.

I've already clay barred my car in the same place but it looks like a few other spots decided to come out on the driver's quarter panel. I've clayed that whole panel too. Right now I rather have the dealer deal with this under no cost rather than to spend money.

Paul_S 03-18-2013 12:22 AM

Whatever you decide ,it's your car. As other posters have said, the clay only removes the above surface contaminates. The Iron-X is needed to remove the rest of the iron particles. Goggle Iron-X . This product speaks for itself.

Bach415 03-18-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 799844)
Whatever you decide ,it's your car. As other posters have said, the clay only removes the above surface contaminates. The Iron-X is needed to remove the rest of the iron particles. Goggle Iron-X . This product speaks for itself.

I know the product speaks for itself. I have seen videos as well as googled it before. Like I have said, I do plan on getting and using it for my car.

picus 03-18-2013 06:32 PM

Them refusing to do it was a blessing in disguise - there is a very, very good chance they would have caused more damage than they fixed; in the end having them work on it will cost you more money.

Bach415 03-19-2013 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by picus (Post 801478)
Them refusing to do it was a blessing in disguise - there is a very, very good chance they would have caused more damage than they fixed; in the end having them work on it will cost you more money.

They didn't refuse to do it. They wanted to charge me to do it.

picus 03-20-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bach415 (Post 802518)
They didn't refuse to do it. They wanted to charge me to do it.

Ya... and you didn't go for it; which is probably the right choice. :)

Bach415 03-21-2013 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by picus (Post 805378)
Ya... and you didn't go for it; which is probably the right choice. :)

Haha it was the right choice. On the other hand, I might just go to a meet and check out if other white frs/brz has the same issue. If not then I guess I'll get some Iron-X to remove/clean it.

smbstyle 04-30-2013 02:35 PM

Just got these out on my car - a few passes with a new clay bar took care of a few, and then I used a light swirl removal (Poorboys SSR1) by hand on an applicator pad that took care of the remaining ones.


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