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A Gomez 01-02-2012 05:33 PM

Will this encourage the competitors to enter the market?
 
Do people on this forum think FR-S/BRZ will encourage the competitors to re-enter the market? Such as new sylvia, nex-gen RX-7/8 or a light weigther FR coupe from Honda?

bambbrose 01-02-2012 05:38 PM

If the numbers are good, yes of course.

If the FRS/BRZ sells out and demand lasts for a good 2 years, I bet they will join in. Everything revolves around money. If the FR-S is a hit with enthusiasts, but still hardly profitable, I doubt the others will join in.

JDLM 01-02-2012 05:51 PM

IMO: Hyundai started the "rwd" small coupe revolution they just went too big/heavy but the plan/formula was there.

merlin2111 01-02-2012 05:55 PM

Yes and it is about time. If this car is under 24k for a well equipped model then it will change things for everyone.

Ryephile 01-02-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JDLM (Post 106825)
IMO: Hyundai started the "rwd" small coupe revolution they just went too big/heavy but the plan/formula was there.

If you mean cars in the low/mid $20k's within the past couple years, then yes. Otherwise, the Nissan 350Z was a big deal a decage ago, not to discount that BMW has been doing it non-stop since the 60's, and the Corvette even longer.

JDLM 01-02-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 106832)
If you mean cars in the low/mid $20k's within the past couple years, then yes. Otherwise, the Nissan 350Z was a big deal a decage ago, not to discount that BMW has been doing it non-stop since the 60's, and the Corvette even longer.

Yeah within the past couple years :) When the 350Z was launched I think it did force the hand of Hyundai a lot more for a small/rwd/coupe

EJ20 01-02-2012 06:26 PM

I think its possible to see a new RX, or and FR Honda. But for S16, I don't think so? nissan already got GTR, 370Z, and G37s

I wish I'm wrong, cuz I like the idea of S16 that weights ~2700lbs and has the new 1.6L turbo engine married to a 6mt

ichitaka05 01-02-2012 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJ20 (Post 106844)
I think its possible to see a new RX, or and FR Honda. But for S16, I don't think so? nissan already got GTR, 370Z, and G37s

I wish I'm wrong, cuz I like the idea of S16 that weights ~2700lbs and has the new 1.6L turbo engine married to a 6mt

Mid 90's Nissan had 180sx, Fairlady, Silvia, & GT-R, so I don't see why not

CyberFormula 01-02-2012 07:18 PM

if Nissan makes a new coupe...

it probably may have the Rev match downshift Manual transmission.

Perhaps a Juke 1.6L T engine

EJ20 01-02-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 106856)
Mid 90's Nissan had 180sx, Fairlady, Silvia, & GT-R, so I don't see why not

your right, but in that era the yen was weak, and there was a strong market for sports car.

Now, the yen is strong and also most people buy boring suv/sedan :(

ayau 01-02-2012 08:00 PM

If the BRZ/FRS sells really well, you can bet that other car makers will want to make their own. The problem with that is that these makers will be behind the competition. It may not be worth the investment if these companies find that developing this type of car takes too much R&D time.

Slide 01-02-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Gomez (Post 106823)
Do people on this forum think FR-S/BRZ will encourage the competitors to re-enter the market? Such as new sylvia, nex-gen RX-7/8 or a light weigther FR coupe from Honda?

Learn to spell Silvia!!!

I would love an S16!!!!

Marrk 01-02-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 106874)
If the BRZ/FRS sells really well, you can bet that other car makers will want to make their own. The problem with that is that these makers will be behind the competition. It may not be worth the investment if these companies find that developing this type of car takes too much R&D time.


I'm going to go the other way and say that the others have got some things on the back burner and may be ready to bring new product to market as soon as '13, '14, '15, depending upon market conditions. A successful FT-86 can only benefit us consumers because other mfrs. will not want to be left out of the action. And I'm just thinking of Japan here. Europe could come in with all kinds of nice things (though perhaps not as reasonably priced).

tripjammer 01-03-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJ20 (Post 106844)
I think its possible to see a new RX, or and FR Honda. But for S16, I don't think so? nissan already got GTR, 370Z, and G37s

I wish I'm wrong, cuz I like the idea of S16 that weights ~2700lbs and has the new 1.6L turbo engine married to a 6mt

Nissan will do it before Honda will. Honda is dead (in the FR market), but they got a new NSX coming. But that ain't gonna be a cheap.


If the AS1 is sucessful, the Hyundai will come out with a lighter smaller genesis, and nissan will come out with a new SILVIA. They have the engines. Supposedly the next Altima is getting a 2.5 liter 4 cylinder with turbo or supercharging. And the 1.6 liter Turbo Juke engine would work too. And Hyundai has a excellent 280 HP 2.0 liter turbo and a upcoming 204 HP 1.6 liter turbo.

Remember is has to be FR.

Honda should bring back the Prelude and make it FR and light weight!
Mazda already said they are making a new RX7 but the RX7 is in the same class as the 370Z and upcoming Toyota Supra. It is FR but not cheap. Plus a new Z car will be out in 2014 or 15.


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