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OrbitalEllipses 03-10-2013 11:58 PM

I want the rear bumper and diffuser setup.

SubieNate 03-11-2013 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Honeydew (Post 784210)
a ducktail and a wing?! hmmm too much?

HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?!?!

I think the laptimes for this car speak for themselves. But it is a racecar. I probably wouldn't put multiple aero devices on the trunk of a street car.

Nathan

Draco-REX 03-11-2013 12:57 AM

One's a Wing, the other's a spoiler. Two different jobs, aero-wise.

A wing uses negative lift from an airfoil (like an inverted wing of an aircraft) to provide downforce.

A spoiler disrupts (or spoils) the airflow coming off the back of the car to create a low-pressure area behind the car. This aids under-car aerodynamics like diffusers, to make them more effective. A larger low-pressure zone means that under-body air will be accelerated out the back more.

So while both are downforce generators on the back of the car, they do so in different ways that can compliment each other. That said, is the spoiler on this car big enough, and the under-car aero developed enough, for there to be a noticeable effect? In stock form, no. But since this is a prototype racer, it's possible. Only their windtunnel team knows.

cyde01 03-11-2013 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 785264)
I want the rear bumper and diffuser setup.

You and me both. If you could mount a standard side outlet exhaust and fit the rear foglight/reverse lights to that thing it'd be perfect.

stilletto 03-11-2013 12:45 PM

Oh Yeah!

http://motormavens.com/emAlbum/album...ttack-copy.jpg

ProTekk 03-11-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stilletto (Post 786038)

The rice version of a 410 sprint car.

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calis5nest 03-11-2013 12:52 PM

^ lol

BlaineWasHere 03-11-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 784049)
How often are you doing 130mph that you would need this? Totally serious question.

THIS! AND where are you doing it?!? Unless you've got forced induction I can't even think of many racetracks where you'd hit that speed.

At stock power with a wing like that I'd bet you'd struggle to even hit 130!!!

stilletto 03-11-2013 02:35 PM

Good Man ^
Every time I open my mouth about unnecessary Wings, Canards, or Aero Kits, people get all pissy.

schtebie 03-11-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 786272)
THIS! AND where are you doing it?!? Unless you've got forced induction I can't even think of many racetracks where you'd hit that speed.

At stock power with a wing like that I'd bet you'd struggle to even hit 130!!!

Well...OP does have a turbo. But I completely agree with your point.

Supermassive 03-11-2013 07:25 PM

So thanks for the added pics, that is an incredible setup. First off I play occasionally on race tracks and after getting this car tuned with the turbo and noticing the amount of rear end instability at high speeds I have stayed off the tracks for the time being. I think that the removal of the stock muffler has upset the flow of air under the car enough to make a noticeable difference in handling that the lip spoiler alone can't compensate for. True, a wing like this would be overkill for most driving around town and AutoX events, and I am one of the anti wing crowd as well.

I have plans and an idea on a functional rear diffuser, but I have a few other mods to work on getting on the car before I start custom fabbing stuff like that. That said, looking at the way this wing is mounted leaves me frustrated because those mounts will never be produced within a price I am willing to pay. The wing however could be produced and an alternate support could be used.

Draco-REX 03-11-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stilletto (Post 786038)

Functional, but amazingly dumb. The whole point of elevating a wing is to get clean air. Which is fine if you're in a competition where you're running nose-to-tail. But that's a TT car. Putting a front wing high on a TT car is just for getting attention.

boredom.is.me 03-11-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 786965)
Functional, but amazingly dumb. The whole point of elevating a wing is to get clean air. Which is fine if you're in a competition where you're running nose-to-tail. But that's a TT car. Putting a front wing high on a TT car is just for getting attention.

How is that to get attention? If it was any lower, the driver wouldn't be able to see.

Supermassive 03-11-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 787024)
How is that to get attention? If it was any lower, the driver wouldn't be able to see.

Well it can't be too dumb, that is one of the faster TC's out there.


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