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slidethis 03-08-2013 08:26 AM

FA20 Turbo?
 
Subaru FA engine
(Japanese: Subaru FA engine) The FA was developed from the FB engine, however, efforts to reduce weight while maintaining durability were the main goals of the FA engine. While the FA and FB engine share a common platform, the FA shares very little in dedicated parts with the FB engine, with a different block, head, connecting rods, and pistons. The FA also features direct injection (from Toyota) and Subaru AVCS variable valve timing system. It is used in the Subaru BRZ, and is identified by a Toyota engine family code known as the 4U-GSE, which is installed in the Toyota 86 and the Scion FR-S.[6] According to Subaru, 0W-20 oil is recommended.
Bore: 86 mm
Stroke: 86 mm
Displacement: 1,998 cc
Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Power: 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) at 7,000 RPM
Torque: 20.9 kg·m (205 N·m; 151 lb·ft) at 6,400-6,600 RPM


(A version with direct fuel injection and twin-scroll turbocharger was introduced in 2012 to the Japanese market for the Legacy GT DIT (direct injection turbo) sedan, and the Legacy GT DIT Touring Wagon.):burnrubber:


Bore: 86 mm
Stroke: 86 mm
Displacement: 1,998 cc
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
Power: 300 PS (221 kW; 296 hp) at 5,600 RPM
Torque: 40.8 kg·m (400 N·m; 295 lb·ft) at 2,000-4,800 RPM

ft_sjo 03-08-2013 08:30 AM

Master of Copy'n'Paste, eh. Shame you're not master of the search function.

Xdragonxb0i 03-08-2013 11:38 AM

I would still love to see how they make an almost 1:1 ration of HP:TQ

sol740 03-08-2013 11:49 AM

I remember reading an expert engine specific analyzation on CarDomain, not sure if you guys are familiar, but it's this place where only car experts are allowed to gather, but I read specifically that the F'EH20 motor could never even dream of being boosted due to the high-compression. Which I assume is something important.

Xdragonxb0i 03-08-2013 12:00 PM

Fa20. Is already boosted at 12cr. But the car makers are happier at lower cr

ZDan 03-08-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i (Post 780296)
I would still love to see how they make an almost 1:1 ration of HP:TQ

Boost...

Worth noting that the "ratio" of torque in lb-ft to power in hp being close to unity doesn't have any real physical meaning other than to indicate that peak power isn't terribly far above the rpm where lb-ft and hp are always equal: 5252rpm.

shawnperolis 03-08-2013 01:45 PM

It'd be cool to see people start putting this kit into the FRS/BRZ, but the boost would have to come way down in order to accommodate the high compression ratio.

slidethis 03-08-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 780064)
Master of Copy'n'Paste, eh. Shame you're not master of the search function.

Ehhhhhhjjhjjjjjhhhhhhh dontcare.

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dem00n 03-08-2013 03:49 PM

This wasn't visioned with a turbo.

slidethis 03-08-2013 03:51 PM

I would'nt doubt if the japanese tuners are looking for that specific legacy and swapping out the turbo.:rolleyes:

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jflogerzi 03-08-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 780874)
This wasn't visioned with a turbo.

Rather keep her NA with bolt ons, lighter weight, and cheap E85/91 ECU tune. This weekend I might be trying out E85 for the first time in my FR-S:thumbup:

ft_sjo 03-08-2013 04:20 PM

One of these engines would be massively better than any of the bolt-on kits out there, but I think there'd be clearance issues under the engine where the turbo is placed.

ichitaka05 03-08-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 780874)
This wasn't visioned with a turbo.

I guess you never seen Mk1.5?
Boxer 2 liter turbo

http://www.autoweek.com/storyimage/C...ef=AR&maxw=630

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidethis (Post 780881)
I would'nt doubt if the japanese tuners are looking for that specific legacy and swapping out the turbo.:rolleyes:

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Nope, they're not

dem00n 03-08-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 780950)
I guess you never seen Mk1.5?
Boxer 2 liter turbo

http://www.autoweek.com/storyimage/C...ef=AR&maxw=630



Nope, they're not

Guess my post was lost with the move.

That car was a concept by Toyota?
Never seen it before.

JP 03-08-2013 04:35 PM

Rising Sun Subaru have a brand new FA20-T for sale with loom, ECU etc for sale... $4400
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...72649732_n.jpg

ichitaka05 03-08-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 780974)
Guess my post was lost with the move.

That car was a concept by Toyota?
Never seen it before.

Yes, if you count Gazoo Racing as a part of Toyota brand

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 780975)
Rising Sun Subaru have a brand new FA20-T for sale with loom, ECU etc for sale... $4400
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...72649732_n.jpg

Only thing same about FA20-T & FA20 on our cars is BorexStroke & Crank. Rest are totally different. If you even use FA20-T ECU, it's 50/50 chance, it'll pass S&E

ft_sjo 03-08-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 780975)
Rising Sun Subaru have a brand new FA20-T for sale with loom, ECU etc for sale... $4400
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...72649732_n.jpg

Bargain..

slidethis 03-08-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 780986)
Bargain..

That is a bargain. Wow brand new too.

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ATL BRZ 03-08-2013 05:01 PM

OP should buy it and then copy & paste it into his car without caring to search if it will fit or not.

slidethis 03-09-2013 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 781024)
OP should buy it and then copy & paste it into his car without caring to search if it will fit or not.

why not heheheh

carbonBLUE 03-17-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnperolis (Post 780570)
It'd be cool to see people start putting this kit into the FRS/BRZ, but the boost would have to come way down in order to accommodate the high compression ratio.

http://i.qkme.me/4efe.jpg

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30737

http://www.troll.me/images/kevin-har...oday-thumb.jpg

fooyc 09-27-2013 12:45 AM

can we just buy a hose cut of this legacy then PnP into the gt86 bay?

Ryuu0u 09-27-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sol740 (Post 780316)
I remember reading an expert engine specific analyzation on CarDomain, not sure if you guys are familiar, but it's this place where only car experts are allowed to gather, but I read specifically that the F'EH20 motor could never even dream of being boosted due to the high-compression. Which I assume is something important.

Ah yes CarDomain. Only the finest of vehicles with owners who are experts of the Auto Zone accessories department. I usually refer back to there for my vehicle styling queues. I dare not join as I am not worthy of such greatness.



:bellyroll:

Sportsguy83 09-27-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fooyc (Post 1236776)
can we just buy a hose cut of this legacy then PnP into the gt86 bay?

I believe this is the same engine discussed here?


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47004


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