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Light-As-A-BRZ 03-07-2013 02:00 PM

Leave the Nannies On!
 
Just want to remind everyone to leave the stability control on.

This past weekend, it was sunny and about 30 deg in the Minneapolis area. Roads were dry and so conditions were right to take the BRZ out to stretch her legs. Anyway, I was on an on-ramp (behind an Odyssey so definitely not going too fast) and realized how valuable the stability control system is.

The roads were dry except under the bridge for this on-ramp. The sun was high enough that snow was melting and what I didnt' realize was how icy it was under there where the melting snow runoff was going through.

Before I knew it, my back-end was sliding out (road was slightly banked) and the stability control took over. The icy patch was probably 60 feet long and going around 40 MPH, all it took was a second for all this to happen.

I don't think I would have been able to recover without the stability control. :respekt:

So the lesson here is: Leave the nannies on folks!

shawnperolis 03-07-2013 02:36 PM

Good post! I leave my nannies on during normal driving... If I want to have some fun I just put it in "Sport Mode" or whatever. When I am pretending to be a drift king in an empty parking lot I turn everything off like a boss! :party0030:

ayau 03-07-2013 02:39 PM

Just noticed you're in Minneapolis. We have a thread here for locals if you're interested.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=3379&page=54

yohan04 03-07-2013 02:51 PM

See my avatar? No, I like them off :)

But seriously, these electronic aids are great for people who transitioning from AWD to RWD, esp the sport mode; awesome for light small angles without ending up in the ditch (although I find it little too intrusive).

Ganthrithor 03-07-2013 03:11 PM

Yeah, no real reason to drive with computers off when you're not trying to have fun, but at the same time nothing really substitutes for situational awareness-- no amount of computing power is going to save the car if you encounter a scenario where there's no grip to be had. Always good to be paying attention to the surfaces you're driving on!

turbo_jimbo 03-07-2013 03:16 PM

Or, learn how to drive. ;)

BryanGT 03-07-2013 04:21 PM

I reflexively correct traction problems (years of open track, autocross, and carting). But I agree, there is no reason to have the nannies off unless you are planning on doing something stupid, and you shouldn't be doing something stupid on public roads.

If you haven't had professional "high performance driving" instruction then that should be your first "mod" for your car. Forza and Gran Turismo don't count.

Ganthrithor 03-07-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanGT (Post 778637)
I reflexively correct traction problems (years of open track, autocross, and carting). But I agree, there is no reason to have the nannies off unless you are planning on doing something stupid, and you shouldn't be doing something stupid on public roads.

If you haven't had professional "high performance driving" instruction then that should be your first "mod" for your car. Forza and Gran Turismo don't count.

^ this.

SubaSteve 03-07-2013 04:38 PM

Incoming professional drivers who tell you those are for people who don't know how to drive.

ilpad 03-07-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaSteve (Post 778689)
Incoming professional drivers who tell you those are for people who don't know how to drive.


lol... u beat me to it.


There's no shame in driving with them on. As light as the twins are its pretty easy to get it sideways when you don't mean to (especially with our Prius tires on!!). I am an experienced sports car driver and I've even had a close call with oversteer going into a bridge section. I would say I was less then 6 inches from wiping my tail across the guard rail.

LeeMaster 03-07-2013 04:49 PM

Hmmm.... were you driving on the off ramp near 94/35E heading west just out of downtown st paul? Because THAT was where I almost shit my pants the other day, lol.

Ganthrithor 03-07-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ilpad (Post 778697)
As light as the twins are its pretty easy to get it sideways when you don't mean to (especially with our Prius tires on!!). I am an experienced sports car driver and I've even had a close call with oversteer going into a bridge section..

I'm just glad they're not mid-engined. We've got an Elise at home and as fun as that car is to drive it always makes me little nervous, especially trailbraking into downhill or off-camber corners. The light weight makes it way more difficult for me to feel what the car is doing and because of the layout it tends to rotate very quickly once you break traction-- you need real Jackie Chan hands to catch it tidily. I'm hoping the BRZ will be a bit more progressive :3

neutron256 03-07-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganthrithor (Post 778756)
I'm just glad they're not mid-engined. We've got an Elise at home and as fun as that car is to drive it always makes me little nervous, especially trailbraking into downhill or off-camber corners. The light weight makes it way more difficult for me to feel what the car is doing and because of the layout it tends to rotate very quickly once you break traction-- you need real Jackie Chan hands to catch it tidily. I'm hoping the BRZ will be a bit more progressive :3

I had a smartcar. Mid-engine, RWD, very short wheelbase. On ice you could tell it was constantly on the verge of getting out of control but as soon as it started to spin stability control would straighten you out.

Ganthrithor 03-07-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 778762)
I had a smartcar. Mid-engine, RWD, very short wheelbase. On ice you could tell it was constantly on the verge of getting out of control but as soon as it started to spin stability control would straighten you out.

Cue mental picture of smartcar being Chris Harris'ed around a frozen lake.


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