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FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 01:33 AM

FA20CLUB V2 Turbo Kit Progress
 
Made some headway on the second of our turbo kits. We made some major headway on the first bottom mount kit but wanted to offer something that would provide more options for turbo sizes and upgradeability. Its finally rounding up and should be back on the rollers end of the week. This kit allowed us to drop the overall retail price significantly. the final retail price was the major reason we didnt pursue a large frame release of the V1 kit. This kit should retail easily around 3800.00 with fuel upgrades (injectors & pump) along with the base tune.

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Xdragonxb0i 03-04-2013 03:15 AM

Im Interested, Will this be a better version of the first turbo? or just a cheaper version.

I would like to know what areas will be diffrent to justify the cost savings.

DriftEightSix 03-04-2013 03:59 AM

yeah intresting to see how your spool times and hp compare with the top and bottom mount turbo kit.

You using the same size turbo for both?

Which one has less piping?

XPR Small Block 03-04-2013 05:52 AM

looks like that header was leaking between the head an where it bolt up..... could that be a common problem with this kit????? i would wait and watch an see what others say

WatchmaN 03-04-2013 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XPR Small Block (Post 770668)
looks like that header was leaking between the head an where it bolt up..... could that be a common problem with this kit????? i would wait and watch an see what others say

You are kidding right?

Sportsguy83 03-04-2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchmaN (Post 770674)
You are kidding right?

My inital thought was WTF too, but looking back at the pictures i think he's referring to the carbon deposit spots in the manifold mating surfaces.

XPR Small Block 03-04-2013 06:10 AM

im not making it up guys it was leaking when they were running it... the pictures show all you need its right there infront of your eyes. i wish i hadnt saw it as the kit looks awesome but that leak turns me away instantly

XPR Small Block 03-04-2013 06:18 AM

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JP 03-04-2013 06:46 AM

looks like welding HAZ on the flanges to me. They really should be faced after welding anyway.

crook 03-04-2013 09:16 AM

It looks like abit of heat discoloration from the welds... And if it was leaking that'd turn you away? Any of the current kits even just NA headers could do this depending who installs or what goes on em ie: type/style of gasket or even some high temp gasket goo

The only other thing someone mentioned above which helps is that they should get faced after welding to take away any high/low spots that may appear, but a good gasket and some copper goo would sort that... Or a belt sander lol

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by XPR Small Block (Post 770668)
looks like that header was leaking between the head an where it bolt up..... could that be a common problem with this kit????? i would wait and watch an see what others say

The car hasnt event cranked up on this setup yet so im sorry to bust your bubble on that one. If it were running already the tubes would have already started changing color to a goldish tint.

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i (Post 770550)
Im Interested, Will this be a better version of the first turbo? or just a cheaper version.

I would like to know what areas will be diffrent to justify the cost savings.

materials: less piping overall and lower cost on the turbo included. allot less piping for the charge pipes among other things.

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 770697)
looks like welding HAZ on the flanges to me. They really should be faced after welding anyway.

flanges are machine, those images are fresh off the welding table.

sierra 03-04-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 770763)
flanges are machine, those images are fresh off the welding table.

The flanges on the over pipe I bought from you certainly weren't machined flat. They appeared to have been finished by someone hand machining them and the result was a convex surface, not suitable for fitting.
I have spent some time filing them by hand but one end is still not good enough.

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 10:14 AM

Those marks are from our 48" belt sander. We cant cnc machine them after full construction. And this is also the first time you have brought this up ; im almost positive ive been in contact with you since your original order. I cant fix something if you dont bring it to light. Those flanges are stainless and tend to pull a bit more and we have switched to mild steel for out kits. You are more than welcome to return it we'll take care of the shipping.

sierra 03-04-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 770822)
Those marks are from our 48" belt sander. We cant cnc machine them after full construction. and this is also the first time you have brought this up. Those flanges are stainless and tend to pull a bit more and we have switched to mild steel for out kits. You are more than welcome to return it we'll take care of the shipping.

That's exactly what it looks like. A belt sander and the flanges have been rocked to make them convex. The worst end is still almost 4mm out when you place a straight edge flat on the opposite side and just too much to correct by hand.

I have brought it up before but you must have missed it. I should have got in touch direct but had hoped to be able to fix it up myself.

I appreciate the offer and will return it. I had assumed I was stuck with it due to the distance involved, so thanks, that's very reassuring.
Could I have your address for shipping.

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 10:32 AM

PM sent. I wont leave any of my customers out to dry no matter where you guys are located.

NotSoJDM 03-04-2013 10:47 AM

Is that going to be final location for the downpipe? Looks to be fairly close to the cold pipe. Extended use could prove to increase iats drastically with heat transfer from the downpipe to the intercooler piping post-intercooler.

Have you done any iat testing? I'm really interested in this kit due to price point, but that's my primary concern for track days.

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 11:33 AM

its not as close as the angle makes it seem. but we also have a couple provision that ill show you guys on the final product later on this week. no charge to you of course. These ill minimize heat transfer and keep iat down.

Xdragonxb0i 03-04-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 770763)
flanges are machine, those images are fresh off the welding table.

More pictures please. Im trying to imagine the piping and compare it towards your old set up. Good luck with the build

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 11:56 AM

Il get a shot from the from the front of the car for you guys

reeves 03-04-2013 11:57 AM

Will this be available/installed on your car when I come by your shop later this month..? :drool:

I might have to re-schedule my whole trip now.. :D

FA20Club.com 03-04-2013 12:06 PM

Should be complete intime for this weekends meet in Orlando

white devil 03-04-2013 12:25 PM

hmmmmm

WatchmaN 03-04-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 770759)
If it were running already the tubes would have already started changing color to a goldish tint.

Lol that's exactly what I was gonna say, but I thought people knew better.:bellyroll:

mashal 03-05-2013 02:07 AM

This looks promising

FA20Club.com 03-05-2013 09:09 AM

Getting closer to completion gonna try some for some more pics today....

Alabang 86 03-05-2013 10:18 AM

very cool !

white devil 03-05-2013 02:20 PM

updates please

Cheddar 03-05-2013 04:32 PM

Interesting....

superstani 03-06-2013 02:16 PM

what turbo is being offered with this kit?

FA20Club.com 03-06-2013 02:49 PM

we will provide a few options but the kits ships with a Garrett T3T4 50/57/60 trim. We will have available upgrades once we finalize some testing later this week.

King Tut 03-07-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 770971)
Should be complete intime for this weekends meet in Orlando

Awesome news. I want to talk to you about possibly tuning my FBM kit as well.

FA20Club.com 03-07-2013 12:25 PM

NP im trying to get everything in order to make the trip up....

FA20Club.com 03-18-2013 09:05 PM

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86pro 03-18-2013 09:10 PM

Cant wait to save up. gotta get this before year end

lexusb3 03-18-2013 09:17 PM

cant wait !!!^^^ kit looks amazing !!

FA20Club.com 04-14-2013 04:04 PM

results are in

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...756#post864756

charged86 05-16-2013 08:20 AM

Even your tack welds look nice. Wish I had a tig

Jahdai42 05-17-2013 02:11 PM

Is there spacing for an oil cooler?


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