North America to get Subaru version but not Toyota version?
 

I have read more than once that US will get the Subaru version but not the Toyota version. Is this based off any actual info or just people purely speculating?

And if true why would they decide to do this? I personally would want a Toyota not a Subaru version.

Did they mention if it's awd or rwd? I would find it strange if Suby is indeed the only version to be sold in the U.S. as a rwd model only. So it means they are willing to compete against the toyo version, a project which they both developed, in the rest of the world but not the U.S. Wierd...

I'd be blown away if Toyota didn't bring their version to north america. Their lineup here is as washing machine boring as the rest of the world and they sell more cars here than anywhere else so they'd be stupid not to bring it!

If both versions come over here, I may have a hard time deciding which to get. Lightweight, RWD corner carver vs AWD brute?

Can't wait for the magazine comparison reviews! In 2012, of course...

What makes you so sure that the subaru won't have awd besides the article on 7tune?

That's why I originally thought as well, but the Subaru rumour mill is strong with this one. And it makes sense, as well.

We will see.

Call me ignorant but if I can't have the Toyota badged version I think I'll end up going after the Genesis coupe... depending on how different the Suby version looks.

this is a huge controversy on nasioc... it may just be rwd, either way, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens... i would like to see how balanced this thing REALLY is via RWD

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Although... one wonders if there will be a TRD version to match a Sti variant...

I for one hope you're absolutely right.
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And the only thing you'll be deciding is Toyota vs. Subaru sheet metal and engine choices. No way AWD will be designed or offered on this platform.[/QUOTE]

Any particular reason that AWD won't be on the Subaru 086a? I'd be shocked.

And the only thing you'll be deciding is Toyota vs. Subaru sheet metal and engine choices. No way AWD will be designed or offered on this platform.[/QUOTE]

Any particular reason that AWD won't be on the Subaru 086a? I'd be shocked.[/QUOTE]

Any pics of the concept (or mule) shows the front axle close to the front of the car. Since on an AWD car you need the engine in front of the front axle, you'd need a different platform/layout. Not saying that they wouldn't be able to redesign it to allow for AWD, but as it stands now the mule/concept layout will only allow RWD.

Interesting... so in this latest spypic of the test mule the wheels would have to be back more for it to possibly be an AWD?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1255448816

They could be just testing the chassis and suspension. Underneath that subaru shell might just be the toyota mechnicals. Subaru could test for awd later on... the impreza shell could allow awd tests in the future.

That article is almost 2 years old if I'm not mistaken.

It would be a huge mistake on Toyota's part to make a solid decision like that, 4 years before the production model is even shipped to be sold.

Plus, its not cited from any official toyota statement.

Im just curious, why does the engine need to be infront of the axle in an AWD layout? Im completly unfamiliar with AWD layouts.

It would be so stupid for Toyota to spend the time and money to co-develop this car and then purposely not sell it in their biggest market (north america). Unless they have some kind of agreement with Subaru that Subaru gets exclusive right to sell their version of this car in the US, I don't see the Toyota version being sold only in Japan/Europe.

WTF IS THAT SHIT?
if usdm ONLY gets this, and not the ft86,
wow. just, wow. that is hideous.

That's just a test mule out for testing and under extreme camoflage. There's all kinds of weird panels and coverings bolted on to mask the true design underneath. Can't tell much from this other than that it's going to be a short car, just like the FT-86.

I agree with some of the other guys... Toyota's version has to be coming here too not just subaru's version

It has to do with Subaru's symmetrical AWD design.

http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/ir/fina...mg/slide11.jpg

I highly doubt there will be a Subaru AWD variant. To do so would undercut sales of their own 'hero' car, the WRX...

Good point. But I suspect most people would prefer to have an awd sedan over an awd 2+2 coupe

Not if the awd 2+2 coupe looks better. Especially since the typical WRX driver is a young guy, he probably cares more about the car's looks than having 2 extra doors and more backseat space.

Yeah, it's really old article.

No offense to anyone, but I can't see RWD subie... Yeah, I know there's some in D1 and Formula D and blah blah blah, but stock... No way. Subie is famous for Boxer Engine AWD

If it's on the Internet then it must be true.
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obviously you've never heard of Subaru Justy or a host of other non-US Subaru models that are not AWD. just because a regional marketing strategy is focused on a set of features doesn't mean they don't/can't/won't make it. my worry is that the folks at Subaru USA will have their marketing slogans so far up their butt and fear about "brand dilution" that they forget the number one mission Subaru exists: sell cars people want, and it's obvious to me that people want a light weight AWD coupe with a turbo 2.5L engine :D

Yes, I know Justy is. It was running EF10 & 12 engine (correct me if I'm wrong) and you know that some Justy came 4WD. Also Earlier had EJ16 & 18 FWD Impreza's. Yes, I know most of Subie that came out (not all).

I'm just saying that Subie is well known for Boxer AWD now. Only few know bout bout those FWD Subies.

if subie makes this a sti platform, im going that route all the way, ill wait the extra year or two and pay the extra money

I really hope its turbo rwd. we already have wrx's and sti's here. I want something different from factory now lol

Thinking about this some more, I think a subaru turbo RWD coupe could sell here. Subaru will have an AWD sedan and a RWD coupe. Just hope Toyota and Subaru versions won't cannibalize each other's sales so much that neither end up being a good business case and both get cancelled shortly or something :bonk:

This is what I am worried about as well if both get sold over here with little to differentiate them other than badging.

I want the subaru version with at least 305hp no awd ( less hp trans loss) small rear seats, $25,000 to start . call it the STi coupe

That would be nice but I think $25k starting is a bit low for that. I say closer to $30k if that even comes out. For all we know Subaru will go with the NA engine at first.

And I want blow jobs from all the current Victoria secrets models, and when they are finished, bust like a boss on Megan Fox.

Pre-cosmetic...enhancement I would hope. She's....gone off the deep end.

Even with her aftermarket parts i'ld still give her a test drive.

But...its like she replaced Nismo R-tune factory parts for Auto Zone AEM....

How much you want for the front pipe dropped off at tpg?

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WOW bringing back a thread from the dead:lol:

Haha I posted to a different post and it some how put it on here haha

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Ban hammer time