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davey90 12-21-2011 12:19 AM

Toyota's Automatic sequential shift
 
Hi all! my knowledge of engines and things in the car are limited, but however I love driving them! :burnrubber:

Anyways to my question! I was driving in my parent's BMW 120D the other day I put it on sequential shift to see what its like. I've noticed not sure if it happens to all or most sequential shift cars. When you floor the car the rev meter changes gears automatically just before it hits the redline without me switching gears manually. If its only some cars that automatically shift gears on sequential shift. I was wondering if anyone knows if the FRS/86/BRZ will be the same as to what I have experienced in my parent's BMW?:scared0016:

Thanks! ^^

madfast 12-21-2011 12:48 AM

No, it depends on how they program the tranny. this car doesnt have auto upshift.

And in manual mode it'll let you bounce off the rev limiter all day without slapping your hand by upshifting for you.

from: http://www.insideline.com/subaru/brz...rst-drive.html

Navi 12-21-2011 12:48 PM

It will not, drifting would be really hard then..

Matador 12-21-2011 02:56 PM

Probably would depend if it's in sport mode or not. My bet is, normally, it'll shift up near the limit, In sport mode, will hold revs till you tell it.

fatoni 12-21-2011 07:13 PM

i dont know how much drifting is going to be done with atuomatics regardless of its ability to provide a linear, direct relationship between engine and tires. if drifting is what you are into, you should probably just learn to drive stick

Navi 12-22-2011 03:10 PM

I'm from europe, sticks only here ;)

However, i do tend to get an automatic for a daily driver..

Nostalgia1987 12-22-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madfast (Post 101878)
And in manual mode it'll let you bounce off the rev limiter all day without slapping your hand by upshifting for you.

from: http://www.insideline.com/subaru/brz...rst-drive.html

Same as that in Lexus cars such as the IS350.

Jeff Lange 12-22-2011 07:47 PM

The IS250 and 350 don't have a manual mode like the IS F has, or the BRZ/86/GT86/FR-S will have. The ISx50 is simply a gear limiter, so yes technically if you have it set to 3, it will bounce off rev limit until you let it go to 4, however it will still fully automatically control the transmission below that, shifting into 1, 2 and 3rd gear as it pleases. Only the IS F has full manual mode which will actually select the gear, instead of just limiting the top gear.

If the 86 was anything like the ISx50, it wouldn't be worth using the paddle shifters, they're essentially useless.

Jeff

Crashoverride 12-22-2011 07:55 PM

to be honest the ISF 8spd tranny is awesome, so the fact that they say it is the same one minus 2 gears makes me happy, so when everyone goes to meets and someone asks if it is auto or manual no one will realy care.

davey90 12-22-2011 08:02 PM

Cheers for the info guys, learn something new everyday!

:w00t::thumbup::happyanim::thanks:

Buggy51 12-22-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 102178)
Probably would depend if it's in sport mode or not. My bet is, normally, it'll shift up near the limit, In sport mode, will hold revs till you tell it.

Besides the Sport and Snow mode, isn't there an actual "Manual" mode? When you put the mode into "M" instead of D. I always thought that you can activate sports mode while in D which will have a "sporty" feel. Then there's the "Manual" mode that won't auto upshift.

http://c819941.r41.cf2.rackcdn.com/m...lscreen-16.jpg

madfast 12-23-2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buggy51 (Post 102948)
Besides the Sport and Snow mode, isn't there an actual "Manual" mode? When you put the mode into "M" instead of D. I always thought that you can activate sports mode while in D which will have a "sporty" feel. Then there's the "Manual" mode that won't auto upshift.

sport mode is independent of D or M, and nobody knows exactly what it does just yet. in the test drive reports, they mention all sorts of things including faster shifts, TC lock up, and even throttle map changes but imo that doesnt sound right.


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