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koyv90 02-26-2013 12:26 PM

why staggered wheels?
 
Is there any performance reason to not go with the same size/offset wheels and same tire sizes on the frs/brz?

norsamerican 02-26-2013 12:27 PM

there are alot of threads on this topic already. Have you tried searching the forums?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22583

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16623

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5465

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...hlight=stagger

took me 45 seconds

koyv90 02-26-2013 12:38 PM

i searched staggered wheels got like 10 pages of just wheel pictures.

f0rge 02-26-2013 12:49 PM

mostly for looks

whaap 02-26-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norsamerican (Post 758195)

Consider this; this forum has been around for four years now (considerably longer than you have) and in that time I doubt there hasn't been a topic that wasn't discussed at one time or another. It's likely any question you might want to ask has already been asked and answered. If every one of us that signs on searched for the topic we were interested in there would be no new postings to invite an interchange. It would be nothing more than a small Google. Sign on, do a search, read the answer and sign off. This forum would dry up and die in pretty fast order.

eikond 02-26-2013 01:00 PM

For 99.9% of GT86 owners it's just for looks.

There might be a couple guys who decided to build the car for 1/4 mile drags.. in that case you want the extra width for some fat sticky tires in the rear to get traction. Since you're not turning in a drag car or stop light racer you don't need much grip in front.. so you'd want smaller, lighter wheels and tires. hence.. the staggared look.

Since the BRZ/FRS was designed for handling - cornering - you would want to keep balance grip levels in front and rear to give max performance. So in most cases you want to remain square.

Suspension tweaking can also impact handling, so a person could hypothetically go with a (mildly) staggared setup and compensate with a stiffer rear suspension and still keep the handling somewhat nuetral. . but this would be an extreme and rare case.

Ultimately, a lot of people feel that staggered looks better and since very few people ever push the car to the limits where it would matter.. it's just fine for them to do what they want.

One finaly issue is the fact that staggared tires don't last as long because you can't rotate to all positions. Some people will throw that into the arguement..

swift996 02-26-2013 01:05 PM

It depends on your goals. A "square setup" will enable a greater dynamic balance, meaning it won't introduce extra understeer or oversteer. Most people go with a staggered setup for one of two reasons.

- To run a wider tire in the rear (more grip = more stick) this can help with higher powered applications but can also enable the driver to get on the throttle quicker on the exit of a turn.
- There's always looks

People on this forum over hype the idea that a staggered set up will ruin the characteristics of the car. If you have adjustable struts and/or adjustable sway bars you can easily make adjustments to get the steering feel you desire. Now there are some compromises and I can't speak to which is ultimately a better set up. For me, it's about the feel I want. I stiffened up the rear with a stiffer sway bar. The car rotates very well and with a wider tire out back, I think will balance perfectly for my driving preference. Pretty much every sports car known to man has ran staggered, so don't buy the hype. I'm sure a square set up gives you better feedback and response to any adjustments in the suspension. It really comes down to your goals and your desired steering feel.

Certainly you can over do it where the car becomes unstable or has snappy understeer or oversteer but if you do a little research and play with the adjustments, you will be fine. I can guarantee that.

FR-S Matt 02-26-2013 01:47 PM

If you want to kill your ability to rotate your tires, go staggered.

congiiee 02-26-2013 02:04 PM

I am thinking of going staggered because I am getting a Vortech Supercharger. My set up is going to be 18x8.5/18x9.5 with 235-40/255-35 tires. Does anyone have an input on this? Still debating but I think the small stagger will help traction for my added power.

Kochinopride 02-26-2013 02:10 PM

I had no idea staggered meant the width (as well). I thought this was on the topic of 17" in the front and 18" in the rear...?

congiiee 02-26-2013 02:13 PM

I think they are talking about width. 17 in the front and 18 in the back is useless....

Amadeus 02-26-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by congiiee (Post 758429)
I am thinking of going staggered because I am getting a Vortech Supercharger. My set up is going to be 18x8.5/18x9.5 with 235-40/255-35 tires. Does anyone have an input on this? Still debating but I think the small stagger will help traction for my added power.

I'm watching to see what all the FI guys do to deal with the extra power. I'm looking for a no-poke non-coilover solution. It doesn't look good fitting a 9" up front without coilovers and no poke except for maybe the Mach V Awesome wheel.

congiiee 02-26-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amadeus (Post 758459)
I'm watching to see what all the FI guys do to deal with the extra power. I'm looking for a no-poke non-coilover solution. It doesn't look good fitting a 9" up front without coilovers and no poke except for maybe the Mach V Awesome wheel.

Yeah from what I've seen 8.5 in the front and 9.5 in the back fits pretty flush and even. Once I get my kit i'll create a thread about it. From what I've read my kit will slip the wheels pretty easily so hopefully 9.5 with 255 in the rear will work

BRAWL 02-26-2013 02:25 PM

I will go square so that I can rotate my tyres to proloing their life after too many skids!! ;)


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