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iLuveKetchup 02-26-2013 11:47 AM

Feel safe at the track without safety equipment?
 
Do you feel safe tracking the twins without safety equipment - cage, hans, seats, etc.? I am looking to liquidate my track, autox, & daily driver into one car - the BRZ or FR-S. My main concern is safety at the track. Granted I do not see myself heading back to the track anytime soon, atleast not until I move to California (1.5yrs out)... so the BRZ will be the autox & DD in the near future. I would like to avoid selling an already setup track car, only to start over again with the heats, harness, etc.

Dave-ROR 02-26-2013 12:09 PM

Yes and No...

I feel safe because I'm not racing the car and therefore am not seeking those last tenths (or hell even seconds). Can something happen? Absolutely. That's a risk I am taking and it's why I'm leaving all the OEM safety systems in place. However we all know that the chance of something going wrong goes up quite a bit the more you push so I do hold back more than I do in the race car (which of course has a cage, fire suppression, HANS being worn, containment seat, etc).

Honestly I'm toying with the idea of a full DE toy car which will have safety equipment in it but I like tracking the BRZ too much so far to do so :)

CSG Mike 02-26-2013 12:16 PM

Unless you have a full HALO seat + 6 point + HANS (or similar) + airbag delete, you're probably better off leaving everything alone.

My only wish is to make a custom rail to lower the stock seat. The stock seat, frankly, is AWESOME for lateral support. 5'7", ~170lbs, and it fits me perfectly.

-Mike

iLuveKetchup 02-26-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 758176)
Unless you have a full HALO seat + 6 point + HANS (or similar) + airbag delete, you're probably better off leaving everything alone.

-Mike

I know to leave all OEM. But do you feel safe with OEM equipment?

akuhei 02-26-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 758177)
I know to leave all OEM. But do you feel safe with OEM equipment?

I've only been to one track event (last weekend, still working on a writeup/videos from NOLA Motorsports park), but I felt safe out there on the track with OEM safety features. And the first day it was wet. Might feel different on a different track, but I doubt it.

CSG Mike 02-26-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 758177)
I know to leave all OEM. But do you feel safe with OEM equipment?

I'd feel better with a roll bar, but that would go for any car. We haven't really seen any roll-overs with the FR-S/BRZ, so who knows how strong the A/B pillars are.

On the other hand, Subarus are known for exceptionally strong chassis...

ayau 02-27-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 758114)
Do you feel safe tracking the twins without safety equipment - cage, hans, seats, etc.? I am looking to liquidate my track, autox, & daily driver into one car - the BRZ or FR-S. My main concern is safety at the track. Granted I do not see myself heading back to the track anytime soon, atleast not until I move to California (1.5yrs out)... so the BRZ will be the autox & DD in the near future. I would like to avoid selling an already setup track car, only to start over again with the heats, harness, etc.

We're back to discussing this again? lol :popcorn:
Aren't you building a STR s2k CR right now?

7thgear 02-27-2013 12:23 PM

i have never feared for my life on a race track and i don't have any safety equipment outside my helmet.

i have, however, felt deep and crippling fear for my bank account whenever the car got squirly or (on rare occasions) left the pavement.

CSG Mike 02-27-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 760651)
We're back to discussing this again? lol :popcorn:
Aren't you building a STR s2k CR right now?

Nothing wrong with bringing a STR CR to SoCal... we have a GINORMOUS autox population (and an equally large track population...)

And it's just another thread for us to occupy the day with :p

iLuveKetchup 02-27-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 760651)
We're back to discussing this again? lol :popcorn:
Aren't you building a STR s2k CR right now?

Yea this is what happens when I don't drive the car for months. Stupid winter! I know I'll change my mind after the first autox event.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 760661)
i have, however, felt deep and crippling fear for my bank account whenever the car got squirly or (on rare occasions) left the pavement.

lol :D

CSG Mike 02-27-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 760710)
Yea this is what happens when I don't drive the car for months. Stupid winter! I know I'll change my mind after the first autox event.

I've noticed some AutoX guys come to the dark side.... :D

iLuveKetchup 02-27-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 760707)
Nothing wrong with bringing a STR CR to SoCal... we have a GINORMOUS autox population (and an equally large track population...)

And it's just another thread for us to occupy the day with :p

I'd go to the track over autox if I were in SoCal. It's cheaper to track & there are tons of competitors. :thumbsup: Plus it's like the wild west, there are no safety restrictions. lol

rice_classic 02-27-2013 01:55 PM

I could be on the track in the FRS completely naked at speed and feel safer than I do driving in traffic in WA State.

Just Sayin'

Dave-ROR 02-27-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 760718)
Plus it's like the wild west, there are no safety restrictions. lol


LOL I'm not sure I'd brag about that part.


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