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Turbowned 02-26-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 759289)
Electronic throttle, pedal deadzone, and throttle tip-in tables are all to blame here methinks.



Omg how many cars do you have man?!

Technically 4; it's a long story. :bonk: MR2, E30 BMW, Celica convertible, M-B E320. The Celica I bought to fix up and flip; I've yet to drive it nor do I plan on driving it. The E30 was supposed to be my winter beater because I was borrowing my mom's old car (E320), but it hasn't left the garage due to mechanical overhaul. The Merc lasted much longer than I thought it would, but it and the Celica are going bye-bye when the BRZ comes this April. Possibly the E30, too. Maybe the MR2 as well. I don't even know anymore. Cars ruined my life.

How'd you change your user title, btw?

orthojoe 02-26-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizz (Post 757906)
Get racerom with the downshift rev match function....

Wow. That's a really nice feature. Pretty cool that ecutek can do that now.

OrbitalEllipses 02-26-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 759326)
Technically 4; it's a long story. :bonk: MR2, E30 BMW, Celica convertible, M-B E320. The Celica I bought to fix up and flip; I've yet to drive it nor do I plan on driving it. The E30 was supposed to be my winter beater because I was borrowing my mom's old car (E320), but it hasn't left the garage due to mechanical overhaul. The Merc lasted much longer than I thought it would, but it and the Celica are going bye-bye when the BRZ comes this April. Possibly the E30, too. Maybe the MR2 as well. I don't even know anymore. Cars ruined my life.

How'd you change your user title, btw?

Sounds like you don't need a used German bruiser in your life. I changed it in my profile.

fistpoint 02-27-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KSC (Post 757838)
Normally when downshifting, in all my previous cars, a slight "blip" of the throttle with the side of my foot during heal/toe was all that was needed to rev match, but in this car I'm finding he RPMs fall almost immediately and much, much faster than everything else I'm accustomed to. I literally have to stab the gas peddle to the floor to keep the RPMs high enough for the lower gear.



Ha! You should be so lucky...Subaru could have designed it the way the new Civics work by making the RPM's hover for 1/2 a second before the needle drops. It makes shifting smoothly difficult in certain scenarios and I'm guessing will result in premature clutch wear.

It is refreshing to learn that the twins do not have this idiotic implementation for the Greenie Weenie crowd(apparently the reason it exists). The Accord doesn't have this system, but an Si does?!?

emutcfut 02-27-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 759273)
Dual-mass flywheel? I noticed my 318is is sluggish to rev, too. Can't wait to swap out for a single mass.

Had me a 325is so it wasn't that. I'm pretty sure it was the prehistoric AFM system the car had.

LeeMaster 02-27-2013 02:11 AM

A lightweight Flywheel + lightweight pulley will surely diminish this issue, I think(Because I never done it on this car before yet). It's something I will take priority once my clutch runs out or my power level is too much for the OEM clutch to handle.

KSC 02-27-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fistpoint (Post 759808)
Ha! You should be so lucky...Subaru could have designed it the way the new Civics work by making the RPM's hover for 1/2 a second before the needle drops. It makes shifting smoothly difficult in certain scenarios and I'm guessing will result in premature clutch wear.

It is refreshing to learn that the twins do not have this idiotic implementation for the Greenie Weenie crowd(apparently the reason it exists). The Accord doesn't have this system, but an Si does?!?

Yes, "rev hang"! I first heard about this when I was reading up on the Gen Coupe. In fact, that, along with the seemingly terrible trannys they come with, are the reasons I'm here. I wasn't dealing with that.

Foobar 02-27-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 760051)
A lightweight Flywheel + lightweight pulley will surely diminish this issue, I think(Because I never done it on this car before yet). It's something I will take priority once my clutch runs out or my power level is too much for the OEM clutch to handle.

I think it would be a wash or worse. Yes, less rotational mass will give better throttle response, but it also exacerbates the initial power drop which the OP complained of to begin with upon releasing the accelerator since you have less rotational momentum.

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