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Visconti 02-25-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 755735)
Anyone know if the Ecutek software runs ok on macs with windows in a virtual machine?

You'll need to be in boot camp for it to work correctly

John

wparsons 02-25-2013 04:50 PM

^^ I'll see about that when I finally order a tune (no point with snowy roads :D) :D

I figured as much, but I'm stubborn and will still try to make it run through a virtual machine.

86_ZN6 02-25-2013 04:53 PM

Go do a local tune. Always better than E tunes imho

FR-S Matt 02-25-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6 (Post 756433)
Go do a local tune. Always better than E tunes imho

+1

Nothing against FA20club or Visconti, but they both know they can tune better locally than anything. Local tunes are PERSONAL tunes for YOUR car with your mods. Nothing beats that. Most do updates for life too when you buy a tune.

Xdragonxb0i 02-25-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 756469)
+1

Nothing against FA20club or Visconti, but they both know they can tune better locally than anything. Local tunes are PERSONAL tunes for YOUR car with your mods. Nothing beats that. Most do updates for life too when you buy a tune.


Agreed especially since your in CALI, Evasive motorsports could help you out.


Unfortunatly for me the closest tuner is about 7 hours so Fa20 or Visconti is the way to go for me

TemeCal 02-25-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 755878)
You'll need to be in boot camp for it to work correctly

John

While it does work in boot camp, it WILL 100% work in a virtual machine. I've tried it in parallels and vmware fusion.

@wparsons
So, yes, it WILL work in a virtual machine.

Visconti 02-25-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TemeCal (Post 756530)
While it does work in boot camp, it WILL 100% work in a virtual machine. I've tried it in parallels and vmware fusion.

@wparsons
So, yes, it WILL work in a virtual machine.

Windows 8 doesn't work right in virtual machine and EcuTek also states they don't support it.

I would highly suggest just doing bootcamp ;)

BEERzed 02-25-2013 09:13 PM

I'm trying to work out how the new Ecutek license system works.

I understand that owners can now flash back to stock, which allows dealers to flash the ECU .. but can they then go back to their Ecutek tune?

What if I want to try a brzEdit or open source tune? Can I try them and then flash back to my Ecutek tune, or is that not allowed for some reason?

I'd be a lot more likely to try Ecutek again if I knew it didn't prevent me from trying other alternatives, should I ever want to.

I'd really like to hear from someone who has flashed an Ecuteked ECU back to stock, flashed a dealer (or other) tune over the top, then reinstalled their Ecutek tune.

Is it just promises, or has someone actually done it?

Visconti 02-25-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BEERzed (Post 757034)
I'm trying to work out how the new Ecutek license system works.

I understand that owners can now flash back to stock, which allows dealers to flash the ECU .. but can they then go back to their Ecutek tune?

What if I want to try a brzEdit or open source tune? Can I try them and then flash back to my Ecutek tune, or is that not allowed for some reason?

I'd be a lot more likely to try Ecutek again if I knew it didn't prevent me from trying other alternatives, should I ever want to.

I'd really like to hear from someone who has flashed an Ecuteked ECU back to stock, flashed a dealer (or other) tune over the top, then reinstalled their Ecutek tune.

Is it just promises, or has someone actually done it?

What's your end goal?

If your dealer replaces the Ecu or flashes it then your Ecutek licensing is gone. You then have to contact your master dealer and get with them to get you a new license.

New licenses are only provided when proof of Ecu replacement or dealer reflash has been done.

So if your Ecutek tuned, flash back to stock and use brzedit you will lose your license.

John

Zgrinch 02-25-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 757042)
What's your end goal?

If your dealer replaces the Ecu or flashes it then your Ecutek licensing is gone. You then have to contact your master dealer and get with them to get you a new license.

New licenses are only provided when proof of Ecu replacement or dealer reflash has been done.

So if your Ecutek tuned, flash back to stock and use brzedit you will lose your license.

John

What is the likelyhood that a dealer can detect that you had a tune and just flashed back to stock prior to visiting them.?

Visconti 02-25-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zgrinch (Post 757050)
What is the likelyhood that a dealer can detect that you had a tune and just flashed back to stock prior to visiting them.?

Flash can't be detected at the dealer level.

The dealer tools can see the checksum info and ram info in the Ecu.

During larger warranty claims , aka motor Subaru of American will ask the dealer to pull up some info which will tell them if the car has a stock or modified flash.

That being said the dealer can not flash over a custom Ecutek tune.. Only a stock a Ecutek flash.

Most of the time the dealer has problems with their tools so if they attempt to flash over a custom tune they'd blame their equipment before pointing fingers - trust me I know.

But the current recall replaces the Ecu not flashes

I've had a few customers have their custom tuned ecus replaced under this recall already.


John

TemeCal 02-25-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 756960)
Windows 8 doesn't work right in virtual machine and EcuTek also states they don't support it.

I would highly suggest just doing bootcamp ;)

Well, I guess both of us should have specified the Win version. It works perfectly fine in Windows 7. Just flashed my car 5mins ago again.

:thanks:

BEERzed 02-25-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 757042)
What's your end goal?

.. if your Ecutek tuned, flash back to stock and use brzedit you will lose your license.

Thanks for your honest response. It is appreciated.

Unfortunately, it means Ecutek is still not for me. I understand the concept of locking out competitors, but really good businesses don't need to do this.

I don't care what software a tuner uses. People who buy a car and own their ecu should have the freedom to choose the best tuner available at the time (without paying a new license fee to Ecutek every time they want to try an Ecutek tuner).

If this is a technical limitation and not a deliberate restraint on customer's choices, then Ecutek need to fix it.

Either way, thanks but it's not for me.

swift996 02-25-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEERzed (Post 757124)
Thanks for your honest response. It is appreciated.

Unfortunately, it means Ecutek is still not for me. I understand the concept of locking out competitors, but really good businesses don't need to do this.

I don't care what software a tuner uses. People who buy a car and own their ecu should have the freedom to choose the best tuner available at the time (without paying a new license fee to Ecutek every time they want to try an Ecutek tuner).

If this is a technical limitation and not a deliberate restraint on customer's choices, then Ecutek need to fix it.

Either way, thanks but it's not for me.

You might want to check out the Unichip offering, worth a look, not sure your goals.


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