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Mike86 02-23-2013 06:44 PM

Why do most people seem to think castrol edge titanium is a bad choice?
 
I got my hands on some castrol edge titanium 0w20 but after reading on these forums i heard alot of people saying it was crap just wondering if i should swap it out for something else?

Thanks

bluesubie 02-23-2013 07:06 PM

People just love to make statements without backing it up with some data. Any API SM/SN ILSAC GF4/GF5 will be fine for most people and perhaps some oils are better than others. But to say any certified oil is crap without data is just silly. And by data, I don't mean one or two random uoa's, a voa, or a product data sheet.

Thank you, drive through.

-Dennis

SubieNate 02-26-2013 07:06 PM

I think a lot of people just hate on Castrol because they're the ones that started the "synthetic" oil thing in the US, leading almost every manufacturer to substitute real synthetic with highly refined dino oil to at least a degree in their oils. A lot of people still don't like them for that.

The most interesting thing to me is Pennzoil. For the longest time they only made "crap" oil according to everyone on the car world. Then all of a sudden that titanium or whatever comes out and tons of people think it's the bee's knees.

Subie 03-06-2013 09:56 PM

The people calling that oil crap are probably the same people that swear up and down that "Mobile 1" [sic] is the best oil on the planet.

Huehuecoyotl 03-06-2013 10:29 PM

Some folk prefer oils with higher VI and metal content

Turn in Concepts 03-06-2013 10:41 PM

Bitog. Great site for all sorts of oil info and data.

carbonBLUE 03-06-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie (Post 776971)
The people calling that oil crap are probably the same people that swear up and down that "Mobile 1" [sic] is the best oil on the planet.

i ran 5-20 mobile 1 extended mileage in my last car running to the 9800 rpm range for 70k miles after i bought it (sold the car with a 152k miles) car was 13 years old, toyota engine :D

and i never called castrol crap

i just trust the oils I've used that haven't failed me

Subie 03-06-2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 777109)
i ran 5-20 mobile 1 extended mileage in my last car running to the 9800 rpm range for 70k miles after i bought it (sold the car with a 152k miles) car was 13 years old, toyota engine :D

and i never called castrol crap

i just trust the oils I've used that haven't failed me

I never said it was bad oil; it isn't. Simply because it's such a popular, widely available oil, there are many who use it because of its image and market presence. Also, it's Mobil 1, not Mobile 1.

carbonBLUE 03-07-2013 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie (Post 777118)
I never said it was bad oil; it isn't. Simply because it's such a popular, widely available oil, there are many who use it because of its image and market presence. Also, it's Mobil 1, not Mobile 1.

tell that to my phone lol... darn auto correct!

chappys4life 03-07-2013 11:25 AM

I have seen 2 motors that where torn apart both had Castrol run through it and they had the most sludge build up I have ever seen. That is why I am not a Castrol fan. I read a article once the sludge build up was based on the oil base was a plant base with a high wax content but cannot find the article so please do not quote me.

Normally it is Mobil1 for me in cars as I have never had an issue. On the fr-s I use oem as it gets factory oil changes. Really old motors I run valvoline or brad penn for the zinc additive which is hard to find.

I think as long as its oil and changed within the milage interval I would imagine it can only be so bad.

Huehuecoyotl 03-07-2013 11:40 AM

No castrol OR Mobil1 for me! IF you are a oil whore, like me, theres far better out there.

Draco-REX 03-07-2013 12:15 PM

Because they refuse to release the HTHS numbers for their oil in the US. Numbers were found for some of their oils in Europe and they were very low.

That said, it still meets the minimum requirements. So I'll use it in the winter. But when driving weather comes back, better oil goes in.

bluesubie 03-08-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chappys4life (Post 777905)
That is why I am not a Castrol fan. I read a article once the sludge build up was based on the oil base was a plant base with a high wax content but cannot find the article so please do not quote me.

Are you referring to wax isomerization? Many base oil suppliers (there are only a few for the entire industry) use this process for Group II and Group III base oils, including ExxonMobil and Shell.

http://www.exxonmobil.com/Apps/Refin...lsheet_mwi.pdf

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1160814

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...t&Number=91356

Now if someone can provide data that oils derived from wax isomerization produce poor quality oils, then I'm all ears.

-Dennis

CheesusCrust 05-25-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl (Post 777947)
No castrol OR Mobil1 for me! IF you are a oil whore, like me, theres far better out there.

What do you recommend then? Its time for my first oil change and I just ordered 6qts off Amazon for 42$. Is there a better oil?


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