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Lverasky 02-22-2013 05:34 PM

Questions about intake.
 
Hi, I am a total newbie to car. What is a good intake kit for FRS/BRZ. I am looking for the price range $100-$200.


What intake you had install in your car? How difference is it before and after the installation?

Plxdjake89 02-22-2013 05:48 PM

Zeta performance intake tube and a drop in filter ( whichever you'd prefer )

Chen 02-22-2013 06:05 PM

I personally have the injen. I like it. The car sounds more lively as well. But Injen was one of the early developers. I have heard good things about the perrin cai. I personally felt like I should have waited for that. But again I'm compleatly happy with the injen intake.

Batman 02-22-2013 06:07 PM

I have the Perrin CAI intake and absolutely love it. They spent many hours and prototypes on a dyno to make it the best possible.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3gtGfcWw54"]Perrin intake sound, free revv - YouTube[/ame]

86_ZN6 02-22-2013 06:11 PM

Drop in filter ---> http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25012

stockysnail 02-22-2013 06:44 PM

I have the Perrin hose and intake system. They are in Hillsboro and give a discount if you pick it up at their store. The sounds the best in my opinion and from what I've read, it's one of the best for making more power so far. Go to the perrinperformance.com website to look at it. If you want to go a cheaper route either stick with your stock intake as it's pretty good, or just buy a perrin foam filter that goes into your stock intake box.

BRZPDX 02-22-2013 06:46 PM

for that budget, a drop in filter and a inlet hose will be your option. The Perrin CAI/Hose will set you back about $400. If you install is your self or buy beer for Derrin

Skywgn1 02-22-2013 07:10 PM

Paid 280+- for the Injen and have been completely satisfied. Plus no more fake noise into the cabin.

Lverasky 02-22-2013 07:31 PM

Why some intake has 2 output and some has 3? I saw my FRS stock intake has 3 output, how do I configure if I bought a intake only has 2. I don't understand.

Zgrinch 02-22-2013 07:36 PM

I'm planning to order one of these next month with black powder coat...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25394

Lverasky 02-22-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen (Post 751424)
I personally have the injen. I like it. The car sounds more lively as well. But Injen was one of the early developers. I have heard good things about the perrin cai. I personally felt like I should have waited for that. But again I'm compleatly happy with the injen intake.

Chen, do you have a link to buy the intake system of yours?

ThugNasty 02-22-2013 07:48 PM

Best bang for your buck would probably be Perrin inlet hose + drop in filter (my setup) or the FA20Club CAI. Both will cost you about 250 bucks.

Lverasky 02-22-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThugNasty (Post 751643)
Best bang for your buck would probably be Perrin inlet hose + drop in filter (my setup) or the FA20Club CAI. Both will cost you about 250 bucks.

Do you have links to buy those items?
Perrin inlet hose
Drop in filer

Chen 02-22-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 751613)
Why some intake has 2 output and some has 3? I saw my FRS stock intake has 3 output, how do I configure if I bought a intake only has 2. I don't understand.

2 is the most common. The 3rd is just for cabin noise. There's a plug the 2 outputs should be coming with. I would opt out for the 2 output. Cause it cleans up the engine bay. And the 3rd output does nothing.

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Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 751626)
Chen, do you have a link to buy the intake system of yours?

I don't. But I'll see if I can find it once I get home from work.

Lverasky 02-22-2013 08:04 PM

Oh. That makes more sense to me now. I was confusing when I saw some intake has 2 and some has 3.

Thank you for your advice. And I wait for your to post the links as well.

stockysnail 02-22-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 751676)
Oh. That makes more sense to me now. I was confusing when I saw some intake has 2 and some has 3.

Thank you for your advice. And I wait for your to post the links as well.

http://www.perrinperformance.com/brzfr-s/intakes
The first item is if you keep your stock air box. The second item is the replacement for the hose between your air box and the engine. It also removes the noise generator hose as Perrin's doesn't have it. The third item would replace your stock air box and would require the front bumper to be removed. I have the 2nd and 3rd items. Some people that can't afford that much $ are doing either just the first or the first and second items. The best sound and performace when giving it full throttle will be with the second and third items.

And if you go to their store they will sell the 2nd and 3rd items for $400 instead of $463 that their website says.

Lverasky 02-22-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stockysnail (Post 751734)
http://www.perrinperformance.com/brzfr-s/intakes
The first item is if you keep your stock air box. The second item is the replacement for the hose between your air box and the engine. It also removes the noise generator hose as Perrin's doesn't have it. The third item would replace your stock air box and would require the front bumper to be removed. I have the 2nd and 3rd items. Some people that can't afford that much $ are doing either just the first or the first and second items. The best sound and performace when giving it full throttle will be with the second and third items.

And if you go to their store they will sell the 2nd and 3rd items for $400 instead of $463 that their website says.

Hi, Stocksnail. I want to know if the second item (inlet hose), does it has 2 output or 3 output. the picture only shows one side of it, I couldn't see the back of it.

If it doesn't has the 3rd output, what should I do with the exist hose that connect to my stock intake?

Chen 02-22-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 751761)
Hi, Stocksnail. I want to know if the second item (inlet hose), does it has 2 output or 3 output. the picture only shows one side of it, I couldn't see the back of it.

If it doesn't has the 3rd output, what should I do with the exist hose that connect to my stock intake?

its only a 2 output. the 3rd output would be a snorkel, and there would be a plug for it.

https://www.teamczp.com/system/produ...jpg?1349294796

that little black thing on the bottom right corner just caps the other end.

Clint520 02-22-2013 11:24 PM

Anyone know the price on labor to get this installed? I wouldn't want to mess with the bumper lol. Thanks in advance!

Chen 02-22-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint520 (Post 752008)
Anyone know the price on labor to get this installed? I wouldn't want to mess with the bumper lol. Thanks in advance!

depends on which one you go with. A lot of them you don't have to take off the bumper. Also a lo of them just reuse the oem location.

Clint520 02-22-2013 11:31 PM

Ohh ok. So which one saves me from removing the bumper?

Lverasky 02-22-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint520 (Post 752023)
Ohh ok. So which one saves me from removing the bumper?

I want to know the answer too.

Chen 02-23-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint520 (Post 752023)
Ohh ok. So which one saves me from removing the bumper?

Quote:

Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 752054)
I want to know the answer too.


a lot of them do. Basically anything that looks like this. (greddy, injen ,takeda, air raid) just to name a few.

http://image.importtuner.com/f/featu...r-s-intake.jpg

Heres a tutorial as well.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9yHvZyaGU"]Scion FR-S Injen Cold Air Intake Install - YouTube[/ame]

stockysnail 02-23-2013 04:34 AM

The ones that don't go into the front bumper aren't really cold air intakes (for the most part), they are warm air intakes as they will suck some warm air in from the engine compartment. Not really a big deal unless you're racing your car on the track.

31katys 02-23-2013 01:05 PM

I have the injen. I'm completely happy with it. 13hp upgrade, who wouldn't be? And a monkeys uncle can install it.

Chen 02-23-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 31katys (Post 752730)
I have the injen. I'm completely happy with it. 13hp upgrade, who wouldn't be? And a monkeys uncle can install it.

Tuned or untuned?

Skywgn1 02-24-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen (Post 753234)
Tuned or untuned?

Mine is untuned and I did notice a difference the first time I took it out. Still do. When I was in the higher RPM's with the stock intake/generator I felt the motor was struggling. Especially considering the noise it was making. Now....well now it's just fun to get it up there. The power and the "True sound" go hand in hand.

You should also buy the Perrin crank pulley too. Revs are quicker.

31katys 02-24-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chen (Post 753234)
Tuned or untuned?

Untuned. Though I am thinking of tuning it now that I talked with a couple of other people who have.

Chen 02-24-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywgn1 (Post 754253)
Mine is untuned and I did notice a difference the first time I took it out. Still do. When I was in the higher RPM's with the stock intake/generator I felt the motor was struggling. Especially considering the noise it was making. Now....well now it's just fun to get it up there. The power and the "True sound" go hand in hand.

You should also buy the Perrin crank pulley too. Revs are quicker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 31katys (Post 754581)
Untuned. Though I am thinking of tuning it now that I talked with a couple of other people who have.

Mine is also untuned. I love having it. I can def feel the difference. But idk if my gains are as high

Lverasky 02-24-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chen (Post 754842)
Mine is also untuned. I love having it. I can def feel the difference. But idk if my gains are as high

Is the afe DRY S a good intake to buy?

Chen 02-24-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 754856)
Is the afe DRY S a good intake to buy?

Intakes are all personal preference. All will have gains. Depends on what kind of sound your looking for and how much stress you want to put on the motor.

sierra 02-24-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chen (Post 754899)
Intakes are all personal preference. All will have gains. Depends on what kind of sound your looking for and how much stress you want to put on the motor.

Didn't Airaid lose power on the dyno? The MAF sensor can also cause problems on some set ups with CEL's and mixture problems but a search will find the reliable well sorted versions.

Chen 02-25-2013 01:27 AM

It may have. I never really followed the air raid intake. But I did see it go on sale!

Skywgn1 02-25-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 31katys (Post 754581)
Untuned. Though I am thinking of tuning it now that I talked with a couple of other people who have.

I think I will as well. Waiting to buy the complete exhaust including header first. I think I will go with Perrin for the tune.

Chen 02-25-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywgn1 (Post 755688)
I think I will as well. Waiting to buy the complete exhaust including header first. I think I will go with Perrin for the tune.

Perrin has a base tune according to what I'm aware of. If you go to pre. I believe that's what nick is doing. And they will tune your car with your mods for optimum performance.

Lverasky 02-25-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chen (Post 756233)
Perrin has a base tune according to what I'm aware of. If you go to pre. I believe that's what nick is doing. And they will tune your car with your mods for optimum performance.


Chen, question I don't understand. After I install the intake system, do I need to tune the car???? I just ordered the AFE Takeda DRY S intake. should be here next week or so.

Chen 02-25-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 756305)
Chen, question I don't understand. After I install the intake system, do I need to tune the car???? I just ordered the AFE Takeda DRY S intake. should be here next week or so.

Tunes arent required. But if you do get tuned it helps maximize the performance of the intake. I wouldnt suggest getting a tune for just am intake tho. Tunes can be very expensive if you go that route. My recommendation, get all your bolt ons first than tune. Ie exhaust, intake, headers and maybe turbo if that's in your budget. I'm currently untuned with a headerback exhaust and intake. I'm waiting for at least headers before I decided to tune.

Lverasky 02-25-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chen (Post 756402)
Tunes arent required. But if you do get tuned it helps maximize the performance of the intake. I wouldnt suggest getting a tune for just am intake tho. Tunes can be very expensive if you go that route. My recommendation, get all your bolt ons first than tune. Ie exhaust, intake, headers and maybe turbo if that's in your budget. I'm currently untuned with a headerback exhaust and intake. I'm waiting for at least headers before I decided to tune.

I see. Thank you so much for your advice.

Chen 02-25-2013 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peace_noel (Post 756441)
I see. Thank you so much for your advice.

yeah, if you end up going to the meet up on Thursday. i'm sure a lot of people will be willing to show you what they got set up. it's better to hear what people have in person than some of these crummy youtube clips.

Lverasky 02-25-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chen (Post 756457)
yeah, if you end up going to the meet up on Thursday. i'm sure a lot of people will be willing to show you what they got set up. it's better to hear what people have in person than some of these crummy youtube clips.


Absolutely. I will definately attend the meet up if my wife is not having me watch the baby.:lol:


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