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Miss_Red 02-16-2013 03:18 AM

Crack in the glass..
 
I was driving through the backroad home from a quick burger run. Just before I get to the stop, a white car comes toward me and I hear a hit. Didn't think much of it (road has a ton of gravel and tends to hits the undercarrage frequently.)
Arriving into the driveway, I see it. There is an extended crack on the driver's side.) I'm clearly upset and my dad decides to take a look. He says it needs to be replaced. I think it could be repaired. It's stabilized and hasn't run any further. Looks deep however. :(
I have to wait until Monday (or Tuesday) to get a call back from the glass company that will be sent to take a look. I purchased extra warrenty on my FR-S via recommendation from my insurence agent. He was very forward on what they will cover and when I'm SOL. He's under a full coverage plan, but I was told not to use it for petty claims. This is a very car-theft and noctorius area (cheap locals, and lots of uninsured "immigrants") so every claim is looked throughly.
So now I play the waiting game. How has everyone fared with crack or breakage issues ? A fellow FR-S owner in my hometown also is going through a similar issue (bigger break though; and filing though insurence.)
Pics a little later. Currently dealing with congestion. I'm hoping I didn't catch the flu. >_<

Atticus808 02-16-2013 05:02 AM

get it replaced.
cracked windshields reduce visibility and strength.

KritiK 02-16-2013 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 738426)
get it replaced.
cracked windshields reduce visibility and strength.

+1
probably your insurance will pay it

OnkelC 02-16-2013 09:47 AM

replacement of the windshield is the only sane option. The windshield is integral to the overall stability of the vehicle body.

mikalem 02-16-2013 10:07 AM

Depending on if it's just a chip it could be repaired (I work in IT for Safelite Auto Glass) - but the chip never really goes away, you can still see it - its usually free if you go through an insurance company, but the repair would just stop it from spreading. Replacing the windshield may take a while (and is quite a bit more expensive, I want to say the cost for our windshield is up there), I know that unlike most cars there are not that many manufacturers making the windshield yet so it's a dealer bought part. Sorry to hear about the chip - good luck on getting it fixed!

Asphalt~86 02-16-2013 10:11 AM

Someone else posted something similar and said the wait time at there local dealership was around 2 months so I would check into it asap.

Shagaliscious 02-16-2013 10:30 AM

I had one on my previous car, it was just a chip to start, but after 2 days of driving I hit a bump and it got bigger. It only cost me $100 through my insurance to replace.

It sounds like your crack isn't as big though...LOL.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF0073.jpg

FRiSson 02-16-2013 12:21 PM

"Noctorius"?

Yruyur 02-16-2013 12:44 PM

I have a two foot crack. Called a windshield place yesterday and have an appointment this morning to get it replaced. Their giving me $100 bucks and a restaurant coupon book. Not oem glass but exceeds oem standards. Plus im returning the car to Toyota because its a lemon so im not too concerned. Had to have it fixed for them to accept it.

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Miss_Red 02-16-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FRiSson (Post 738651)
"Noctorius"?

Notorious, damn auto correct.

Insurance fraud. It's gotten pretty bad. Texas is known for rather high insurence rates (at least what is considered high in the south).
Thank our neighbor from the other side of the border. :(

Miss_Red 02-16-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 738566)
I had one on my previous car, it was just a chip to start, but after 2 days of driving I hit a bump and it got bigger. It only cost me $100 through my insurance to replace.

It sounds like your crack isn't as big though...LOL.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF0073.jpg

It's just like that one..passenger side. I'm seriously considering going OEM on this one. My friend (who owns a "sister" FR-S) just got another chip after getting a recent replacement. I can't go through the dealership, I'm going through a claims department through my car's additional warrenty.

carbonBLUE 02-16-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 738566)
I had one on my previous car, it was just a chip to start, but after 2 days of driving I hit a bump and it got bigger. It only cost me $100 through my insurance to replace.

It sounds like your crack isn't as big though...LOL.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/DSCF0073.jpg

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps68d54df5.jpg

MEE TOO!

Miss_Red 02-16-2013 02:51 PM

http://http://i38.photobucket.com/al...D66BB5FAD0.jpg

Drive around yesterday and it has never extended. Wasn't about to push it though.

Miss_Red 02-16-2013 02:58 PM

Shoot, the pic isn't showing up. I mainly use my phone for internet. The two closest providers haven't bothered to fix the line and the county's fiber optic line is still being installed.

Gotta love rural area living...

Yruyur 02-16-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss_Red (Post 738807)
Notorious, damn auto correct.

Insurance fraud. It's gotten pretty bad. Texas is known for rather high insurence rates (at least what is considered high in the south).
Thank our neighbor from the other side of the border. :(

I had to get my windshield inspected first. There is actually a business I went to that only does windshield inspection for insurance companies. I guess there is enough fraud to pay for it.

So my guy showed up this morning and couldnt do the work. Turns out he only had the glass but it requires a dealer moulding that he didnt have. Its attached to the glass and fills in the gap around it. They have to cut through ours to put the replacement on.

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Miss_Red 02-16-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Yruyur (Post 739008)
I had to get my windshield inspected first. There is actually a business I went to that only does windshield inspection for insurance companies. I guess there is enough fraud to pay for it.

So my guy showed up this morning and couldnt do the work. Turns out he only had the glass but it requires a dealer moulding that he didnt have. Its attached to the glass and fills in the gap around it. They have to cut through ours to put the replacement on.

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Ohh man. I haven't recieved a call from the company yet for an appointment. Guessing the process might be similar.

Shagaliscious 02-16-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss_Red (Post 738849)
http://http://i38.photobucket.com/al...D66BB5FAD0.jpg

Drive around yesterday and it has never extended. Wasn't about to push it though.

Here ya go.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6BB5FAD0-2.jpg

That definitely will require a new windshield.

*KID* 02-16-2013 05:37 PM

How much are new ones...

Miss_Red 02-16-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 739037)
Here ya go.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...6BB5FAD0-2.jpg

That definitely will require a new windshield.

Thanks. Might as well. I'm seriously hoping I can get more resistant glass. He's staying in the garage until then.

I actually went through the same road this morning (other car). Nothing this time.

Mandy 02-16-2013 05:47 PM

Luckily insurance replaces cracked glass in FL for free, thankfully.

Yruyur 02-16-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandy (Post 739053)
Luckily insurance replaces cracked glass in FL for free, thankfully.

Az also

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Captain_Awesome_Pants 02-16-2013 07:43 PM

Here's a question, I with the threads I've seen on dealers not having or being able to locate certain parts for the car, I wonder if the windshields are readily available? Moreover, are the non-Toyota/Suburu 'generics' available yet to the glass dealers?

blackraven1425 02-16-2013 07:53 PM

Probably. In my case in particular, I can't even find the bracket in the full manual here.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8448

Miss_Red 02-16-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Awesome_Pants (Post 739188)
Here's a question, I with the threads I've seen on dealers not having or being able to locate certain parts for the car, I wonder if the windshields are readily available? Moreover, are the non-Toyota/Suburu 'generics' available yet to the glass dealers?

Nope. From what I gather, it's a three week to a two month wait. Toyota and Subaru really should of thought ahead and had parts and components available from launch and not assume every owner was going to mod this asap.
Granted it's still a limited car, but sh*t happens. More often to sports cars.

fistpoint 02-16-2013 10:22 PM

All these cracked windshield stories have me wondering if the replacement should be an aftermarket piece rather than an original.

Supposedly the original glass is thinner than most in an attempt to keep the weight down(read that here). Clearly this was a mistake on Subaru's part since we see so many cases of cracks.

Would an aftermarket window copy the extra thinness of the original?

Captain_Awesome_Pants 02-16-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fistpoint (Post 739404)
All these cracked windshield stories have me wondering if the replacement should be an aftermarket piece rather than an original.

Supposedly the original glass is thinner than most in an attempt to keep the weight down(read that here). Clearly this was a mistake on Subaru's part since we see so many cases of cracks.

Would an aftermarket window copy the extra thinness of the original?

Normally I would say no. The cheaper ones barely get the shape of windshields right. However, as popular as this car will be, I bet a lot of companies will have a version and I would imagine at least one would be to spec. For better or worse...

V1B 02-16-2013 10:58 PM

Yup windshield glass sucks. Have two chips :( and many small ones . Replacement 100% aftermarket cuz the OEM 👎

IloveBaldEagles 02-16-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Awesome_Pants (Post 739188)
Here's a question, I with the threads I've seen on dealers not having or being able to locate certain parts for the car, I wonder if the windshields are readily available? Moreover, are the non-Toyota/Suburu 'generics' available yet to the glass dealers?

My windshield got a big chip on it the first day it snowed in the DC area. It was either a huge pebble that flew low over my hood and slammed a dent with the size of a quarter... then it spread. Called my insurance (on a Friday) and had an OEM put on exactly a week after. The issue isn't that the parts are unavailable, the issue is that the people do not know anything about this car. I helped the company who was replacing my windshield order one. They actually thought I meant scion tC when I mentioned that it was a coupe.

V1B 02-16-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sekal (Post 739492)
My windshield got a big chip on it the first day it snowed in the DC area. It was either a huge pebble that flew low over my hood and slammed a dent with the size of a quarter... then it spread. Called my insurance (on a Friday) and had an OEM put on exactly a week after. The issue isn't that the parts are unavailable, the issue is that the people do not know anything about this car. I helped the company who was replacing my windshield order one. They actually thought I meant scion tC when I mentioned that it was a coupe.

Lol

Miss_Red 02-17-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sekal (Post 739492)
My windshield got a big chip on it the first day it snowed in the DC area. It was either a huge pebble that flew low over my hood and slammed a dent with the size of a quarter... then it spread. Called my insurance (on a Friday) and had an OEM put on exactly a week after. The issue isn't that the parts are unavailable, the issue is that the people do not know anything about this car. I helped the company who was replacing my windshield order one. They actually thought I meant scion tC when I mentioned that it was a coupe.

Haha....wow. My insurence agent already knew about it surprizingly. These guys are prepped for every single new or redesigned vehicle that comes to market. Hoping the coverage price doesn't skyrocket soon with all the hooners buying them.

norsamerican 02-17-2013 12:34 AM

where in South Texas aka hell are you? I only ask because i moved out to southwest texas a yr half ago and had to replace my windshield on my old car twice in a year due to rock chips...gravel trucks always spilling rocks and crap on the feeder roads. I have only seen two FRS's out here where i am one grey one black

Miss_Red 02-17-2013 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norsamerican (Post 739609)
where in South Texas aka hell are you? I only ask because i moved out to southwest texas a yr half ago and had to replace my windshield on my old car twice in a year due to rock chips...gravel trucks always spilling rocks and crap on the feeder roads. I have only seen two FRS's out here where i am one grey one black

The Mid-Valley area (outside Weslaco). Moved back here from a six-year stint in Houston. I frikkin' hate the Valley..
Rocks are the least of my problems. Scrap metal on the expressway is a constant worry. My mom and I almost got in a major accident last March due to a piece that annihilated the driver side-rear tire on her Lincoln. Almost got side swiped twice trying to get to safety (emergency lights on) The wheel managed to hold the weight of the car easily. I've been driving on the passing lane constantly since then.
People moan and b*tch about Houston traffic (I-45 and 610 Westbound and Pasadena Parkway) are the only roads I had issues with. But they never had consistant hazards like all the roads down here. And pray whoever hits you drives away; the less financially secure will hit you and siphon money via your insurance and corrupt doctors.
South Texas; aka North Mexico/hell. Stay away from this awful place. (For the record, I'm Latina. Every terrible Mexican stereotype is found here. Not being racist..)

ravenblackfrs 02-17-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss_Red (Post 739668)
The Mid-Valley area (outside Weslaco). Moved back here from a six-year stint in Houston. I frikkin' hate the Valley..
Rocks are the least of my problems. Scrap metal on the expressway is a constant worry. My mom and I almost got in a major accident last March due to a piece that annihilated the driver side-rear tire on her Lincoln. Almost got side swiped twice trying to get to safety (emergency lights on) The wheel managed to hold the weight of the car easily. I've been driving on the passing lane constantly since then.
People moan and b*tch about Houston traffic (I-45 and 610 Westbound and Pasadena Parkway) are the only roads I had issues with. But they never had consistant hazards like all the roads down here. And pray whoever hits you drives away; the less financially secure will hit you and siphon money via your insurance and corrupt doctors.
South Texas; aka North Mexico/hell. Stay away from this awful place. (For the record, I'm Latina. Every terrible Mexican stereotype is found here. Not being racist..)


Damn that sucks!

Miss_Red 02-17-2013 01:32 AM

Yep. It's an in-joke here in Texas that Houston is a stinky hellhole. H-Town is a frikkin' paradise compared to here. Even East Side (Stinkadena lol) would be a step up.

Plus the gas is cheap and excellent quality. Almost worth dealing with the pollution for. And the car scene...God I miss that the most.

ravenblackfrs 02-17-2013 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss_Red (Post 739707)
Yep. It's an in-joke here in Texas that Houston is a stinky hellhole. H-Town is a frikkin' paradise compared to here. Even East Side (Stinkadena lol) would be a step up.

Plus the gas is cheap and excellent quality. Almost worth dealing with the pollution for. And the car scene...God I miss that the most.


Whats considered cheap? Ga is running about $3.79 what I paid the other day. South Carolina is always cheaper than Ga though...

Morg 02-17-2013 01:39 AM

Ouch...

I have had bad luck with windshields and new vehicles..

My 2010 Camaro, and my 2010 Raptor both got nailed within the first couple months of ownership.

Camaro had to be replaced.. Cost was over a grand.. But was covered under insurance ($300 deductible).

Raptor was not as bad, I was hoping for a full replacement again with the detuctible, but the glass guy said it was not bad enough to replace.. And so it was repaired on the spot and cost... $20 bucks or something?

The downside, is that it's still visible, and it's right infront of my face whenever I drive. It's small but... annoying.

I'd stick with OEM personally... Don't want to deal with fitment issues down the road or take a chance on cheap materials.

OEM products are probably more likely to adhere to safety standards ? But less likely to have fitment issues for sure, and seems like it would just be overall less of a hassle.

IMHO I'd go with whatever is the SAFEST option if possible. Sucks losing money, but it would suck more to regret cheaping out on it later on when you need the windshield to do it's job properly.

Miss_Red 02-17-2013 01:41 AM

Right now, about 3.20 is considered a deal. The lowest gas locally is running at 3.29 regular/3.49 premium(93 octane) where I go (Sam's Club ftw).

(Cue the haters in 3. 2..1..)

ravenblackfrs 02-17-2013 01:50 AM

#hating LOL

Hawaiian 02-17-2013 02:01 AM

This glass is garbage. I've got a large scratch, and very small pit on my glass within the first 2 months of owning the car. It seems pretty weak to me.

Morg 02-17-2013 04:02 AM

Unfortunately, I think due to how low the car is as well as the shape... windshield issues come with the territory.

Can minimize this by increasing the distance between you and the cars ahead of you... Avoid driving in lanes that have a wall or divider on your side to avoid bouncing rocks. And avoid driving on the inner lane in situations where you're travelling at high speeds with oncoming traffic in the lane right next to yours.

And generally just an increased awareness of road surfaces.

Unfortunately, unless someone goes around and cleans up all the rocks...chips in paint and windshields are going to happen. And more so on lower vehicles.

Only other useful tip, would be to... get a dash cam or make note of the vehicle type & license plate that tossed the rock at you. Your insurance might make the claim against their insurance if they can verify within a reasonabl doubt that the person was in the area you made the claim at the same time.

I don't know how they verify this or how likely they are to accept the claim in that fashion. I haven't tried it yet, but both times I had windshield claims I was asked if I could provide a plate # for the car that threw the rock at me.

As well as the one time a car infront of me launched a chunk of metal at my car which ripped up the entire side from the front wheel well all the way to the rear panel.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a plate # any of these times.


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