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Dave-ROR 12-13-2011 01:51 PM

TPMS Sensors..
 
Has anyone here had to deal with TPMS sensors on new wheels with a Subaru? To avoid the light coming on after switching wheels...

JDLM 12-13-2011 01:52 PM

You mean without putting back in the federally mandated sensor ?

Longhorn248 12-13-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JDLM (Post 97395)
You mean without putting back in the federally mandated sensor ?

TPMS are federally mandated now? Interesting...

JDLM 12-13-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 97412)
TPMS are federally mandated now? Interesting...


They are required by law hence the reason all new cars have them

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/ruli...nalrule.6.html

Ryephile 12-13-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 97412)
TPMS are federally mandated now? Interesting...

Kinda. Having some sort of TPMS system is. This means ABS/wheel speed delta calculation or in-wheel sensors.

Unfortunately, Toyota decided to waste money and install expensive in-wheel sensors. This decision is decidedly NOT tuner friendly. Hopefully there's a saving grace and they at least display the actual individual tire pressures in the IP. Otherwise, if they "do a BMW", the sensors will be pretty much a waste of money, effort, and resources.

JDLM 12-13-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 97417)
Kinda. Having some sort of TPMS system is. This means ABS/wheel speed delta calculation or in-wheel sensors.

Unfortunately, Toyota decided to waste money and install expensive in-wheel sensors. This decision is decidedly NOT tuner friendly. Hopefully there's a saving grace and they at least display the actual individual tire pressures in the IP. Otherwise, if they "do a BMW", the sensors will be pretty much a waste of money, effort, and resources.


How are the BMW sensors useless? All 4 of mine are displayed on my I-drive .....

Longhorn248 12-13-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 97417)
Kinda. Having some sort of TPMS system is. This means ABS/wheel speed delta calculation or in-wheel sensors.

Unfortunately, Toyota decided to waste money and install expensive in-wheel sensors. This decision is decidedly NOT tuner friendly. Hopefully there's a saving grace and they at least display the actual individual tire pressures in the IP. Otherwise, if they "do a BMW", the sensors will be pretty much a waste of money, effort, and resources.

By waste of money do you mean you basically get a warning light whenever one of the tires is low on pressure without telling you the pressure or which tire?

JDLM 12-13-2011 02:36 PM

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...iuuiXaIJ-r2jyg

Here is an example of what mine do if they are low

Ryephile 12-13-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JDLM (Post 97420)
How are the BMW sensors useless? All 4 of mine are displayed on my I-drive .....

The pressures aren't displayed on MINI, or any non i-drive cars to my knowledge.



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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 97422)
By waste of money do you mean you basically get a warning light whenever one of the tires is low on pressure without telling you the pressure or which tire?

Exactly. Just as useless as ABS wheel speed sensor deduced TPMS, but much more expensive and hassle-prone when swapping wheels for winter/summer/track.

JDLM 12-13-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 97428)
The pressures aren't displayed on MINI, or any non i-drive cars to my knowledge.

I am sure that this is all that is seen

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QVfnRPEMfzVGMg


Same w/ my wife's forester and various other systems

oneday 12-13-2011 02:44 PM

There are aftermarket replacement sensors available (or will be very soon). Continental (the parent company that owns Continental Tire, General Tire, Uniroyal, and VDO gauges) has been developing a universal type of component. My BIL is part of the team developing the product..

I've gotten a few competitor type products to play with over the last year or so...one was really cool and allowed a mini-dash display that showed actual pressures in each tire...was cool for track days to monitor tires.

MightyAl 12-13-2011 02:50 PM

I had the TPMS sensors installed on my winter wheels on my STi. The only thing they don't tell you that every time you switch wheels they have to be calibrated. Most dealerships charge for this service so I just learned to live with the red light.

JDLM 12-13-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyAl (Post 97433)
I had the TPMS sensors installed on my winter wheels on my STi. The only thing they don't tell you that every time you switch wheels they have to be calibrated. Most dealerships charge for this service so I just learned to live with the red light.


calibrated how?

I have swapped mine from my OEM wheels to my 19" wheels and now back to my OEM wheels (winter/selling) and I didn't have to calibrate anything

Ryephile 12-13-2011 03:12 PM

Not all TPMS receivers can ID multiple sets. This means every time you swap wheels, you [or the dealership] have to reset the car computer. An inconvenience for sure. Removing the dummy dash light and just forgetting about the whole thing is much easier and cheaper...and still doesn't change the fact you have to check your tires regularly anyway with most cars that don't show individual tire pressures in the dash.


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