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tranzformer 12-13-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxJunkie (Post 97372)
I love e36s. However, it's so damned hard to find one I'd be willing to spend the money on and then to maintain.

Exactly. Parts are expensive and will probably become harder to find as it gets older. Damn expensive to bring to a shop too. I can do basic stuff myself but would need the shop to do the rest.

Dimman 12-13-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 97346)
See, this guy owns a 95. Listen to him. :)

I flew to Omaha, NE for the last car I bought :thumbup:

I've heard that the early ones had fragile engines. Any truth to that?

Dave-ROR 12-13-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 97392)
Thanks Dave. That is a great looking car. Just not sure I want to spend that much on a 12yr old BMW (I realize you have to spend to get one in good condition) but for a little more I can save up for a BRZ. If I could find a used one for $8-9k that would be ideal but would assume I would then need to put some money into it.

Oh you can find them for less easily.. that is just about the perfect M3 for me :)

They will last a good long time, I know of some stock unopened engine cars with over 200k on them. I'd personally stick with 100k or less but that's just me..

Probably two years ago a friend sold his 95 Avus Blue with 40k on it for 12k, I regret not buying that car :(

Dave-ROR 12-13-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 97405)
I've heard that the early ones had fragile engines. Any truth to that?

Not that I've ever seen. I've seen people blow them up with too much boost and I've known people to do damage with misshifts, but I've never heard of any widespread problems with the engines if left alone (at least US spec, no idea on the S50B30 used elsewhere).

I have known people (and read about even more) with cluster issues in 95 M3s though..

Oh and of course the subframe tearout issues but that's not specific to the E36, E46s, M coupes, etc all suffer from that flaw.

tranzformer 12-13-2011 02:27 PM

I have read there are issues with the radiator/engine cooling system.

Mitch 12-13-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 97414)
I have read there are issues with the radiator/engine cooling system.

The problem with the e36 is some had plastic water pump impellers. There's a factory part with a metal impeller, and many cars you'll find have upgraded.

Dave-ROR 12-13-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 97431)
The problem with the e36 is some had plastic water pump impellers. There's a factory part with a metal impeller, and many cars you'll find have upgraded.

I can't imagine you'd find any enthusiast owned one that hasn't been by now but I'm sure there are some out there still.

Dimman 12-13-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 97410)
Not that I've ever seen. I've seen people blow them up with too much boost and I've known people to do damage with misshifts, but I've never heard of any widespread problems with the engines if left alone (at least US spec, no idea on the S50B30 used elsewhere).

I have known people (and read about even more) with cluster issues in 95 M3s though..

Oh and of course the subframe tearout issues but that's not specific to the E36, E46s, M coupes, etc all suffer from that flaw.

I just have vague memories of there being a reliability difference between the 3.0L (is that the S50B30 you mentioned?) and the 3.2L.

ichitaka05 12-13-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 97339)
I haven't researched the E92s (due to price, I have no interest in spending that kind of money on a car) but all the track guys I know with one haven't had any issues. Which trans was it? I only know guys with the manuals.. I'd suspect abuse or a defect there though unless it's a wide spread problem.

I think he had the AT... One week, saw him w E92 prepping to go drag race at the local track... Next week, I saw him saying E92's tranny broke & instead of waiting to be fixed, bought GT3.

I'm pretty sure some bad luck stuff. Every time he go to the track, he come home breaking something (that including his bones). But of course, he have enough money laying around to spent fixing or buying new car, so I'm pretty sure he doesn't care.

Mitch 12-13-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 97487)
I think he had the AT... One week, saw him w E92 prepping to go drag race at the local track... Next week, I saw him saying E92's tranny broke & instead of waiting to be fixed, bought GT3.

I'm pretty sure some bad luck stuff. Every time he go to the track, he come home breaking something (that including his bones). But of course, he have enough money laying around to spent fixing or buying new car, so I'm pretty sure he doesn't care.

Sounds like money is putting him in cars he is not otherwise prepared to drive.

LSxJunkie 12-13-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 97487)
I think he had the AT... One week, saw him w E92 prepping to go drag race at the local track... Next week, I saw him saying E92's tranny broke & instead of waiting to be fixed, bought GT3.

I'm pretty sure some bad luck stuff. Every time he go to the track, he come home breaking something (that including his bones). But of course, he have enough money laying around to spent fixing or buying new car, so I'm pretty sure he doesn't care.

Did he blow up the trans, blow up the rear, or break an axle? I thought those DCTs were pretty stout.

ichitaka05 12-13-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 97519)
Sounds like money is putting him in cars he is not otherwise prepared to drive.

Hm... I don't think so. His family have been car/bike holic for generation to generation. From what I know, he can drive/ride em faster than any one of the family... but he'll break em faster than any one of the family :bellyroll:

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Originally Posted by LSxJunkie (Post 97542)
Did he blow up the trans, blow up the rear, or break an axle? I thought those DCTs were pretty stout.

IDK, only thing he told me was he blew the tranny and wasn't willing to wait to be fixed, so he bought GT3... That's all I know, sorry. Sunday, when I visit my family, I'll ask him how he broke it

Mitch 12-13-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 97556)
Hm... I don't think so. His family have been car/bike holic for generation to generation. From what I know, he can drive/ride em faster than any one of the family... but he'll break em faster than any one of the family :bellyroll:

That's sort of what I'm saying. Normally, even for an enthusiast, you'd have several more years of experience before getting behind of a wheels of cars like that. That's why I'm not in the least bit surprised he breaks them and gets hurt in them.

ichitaka05 12-13-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 97558)
That's sort of what I'm saying. Normally, even for an enthusiast, you'd have several more years of experience before getting behind of a wheels of cars like that. That's why I'm not in the least bit surprised he breaks them and gets hurt in them.

He's a lawyer have a ton of money throw away (no offense to any lawyers)


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