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Simmons 02-08-2013 01:24 PM

Virtual Dyno ?
 
Is using Virtual Dyno a good tool to compare differnt tunes?

How far off is it?

I have been comparing differnt logs that I have from all the different tunes. It seems to compare to the butt dyno, if it feels better it usualy looks better on the virtual dyno.

Here is my last tune.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps0246990e.jpg


Simmons

Flat Black VW 02-08-2013 01:50 PM

I have Dynolicious on my iPhone, it was like $13.00. I bought it after reading a review in one of the many car magazines I get and they basically said its not perfect, but for the price its damn close. I find it to be pretty fun, doesn't really show small differences from things like a pulley but for $13 its worth it.

2forme 02-08-2013 02:08 PM

You could always dyno it and compare. It really depends on the road. I've had it be fairly accurate on level road, but any small incline/decline/potholes will cause disruption.

Simmons 02-08-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 721586)
You could always dyno it and compare. It really depends on the road. I've had it be fairly accurate on level road, but any small incline/decline/potholes will cause disruption.

I always use flat smooth roads when I log.

I am trying to save th dyno money aand use this toffind the best one first.

Simmons

2forme 02-08-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmons (Post 721610)
I always use flat smooth roads when I log.

I am trying to save th dyno money aand use this toffind the best one first.

Simmons

Yea, I do too, but bumps will register on the virtual dyno lol.

xjohnx 02-08-2013 02:35 PM

VirtualDyno is a great tool, if you take it for what it is. Increases or decreases in power will appear and give you a good idea of what is happening, but the numbers will not match up perfectly to a chassis dyno,

Consistency with virtual dyno is important. The less variables changing, the better. Always try to use the same gear. The same stretch of road. Etc.

b.e 02-08-2013 03:20 PM

Most of the phone dyno's are actually pretty good, but require a very accurate vehicle + driver + fuel weight.

Simmons 02-08-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 721657)
VirtualDyno is a great tool, if you take it for what it is. Increases or decreases in power will appear and give you a good idea of what is happening, but the numbers will not match up perfectly to a chassis dyno,

Consistency with virtual dyno is important. The less variables changing, the better. Always try to use the same gear. The same stretch of road. Etc.

I use the same road every time, and the same gear.

Simmons

xjohnx 02-08-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmons (Post 722038)
I use the same road every time, and the same gear.

Simmons

Then it should give you a decent idea of what's happening. also note that things such as full tank vs empty tank, passenger vs no passenger, ambient outside temperature all can impact the results.

It's still a great tool though.

Simmons 02-08-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 722279)
Then it should give you a decent idea of what's happening. also note that things such as full tank vs empty tank, passenger vs no passenger, ambient outside temperature all can impact the results.

It's still a great tool though.

Definetly, I enter the weight of the driver and the car. Temperature does have an effect on these cars.

Do you have any of your results?

Thanks,


Simmons

xjohnx 02-08-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmons (Post 722306)
Definetly, I enter the weight of the driver and the car. Temperature does have an effect on these cars.

Do you have any of your results?

Thanks,


Simmons

This is the only one i have handy, it's of @FA20Club.com 's stg2 tune. However we've still got a bit of tuning to do (also worth noting, the road i use to datalog has a moderate incline). Toni has the log files from these runs and i've been waiting on an update to continue the process. Very happy so far. In the mean time, i'm headed out the door to the new local(ish) e85 station and will be flashing either Toni's or @Visconti 's e85 tune. maybe i'll get a datalog of that tonight, we'll see.

http://i.imgur.com/efujRY5.jpg

wparsons 02-08-2013 09:56 PM

If you're using the same road, same direction, same gear every time it should be pretty accurate to itself. It might not compare well to a chassis dyno, but it will definitely show you how mods are reacting to your car compared to previous runs.

jedibow 02-08-2013 10:12 PM

virtual dyno is as accurate as you set it up, mine is exactly the same as a dynojet. Be sure to use the same road, going in the same direction every time, use smoothing level 3, and clip the last time stamp off the end to make sure you are not getting false rpm reading caused by shutting the logger.

WatchmaN 02-08-2013 11:48 PM

Virtual dyno is very close to reality if you put all the right numbers, temp,weight, atm pressure. Also if you wanna compare be sure to always have your tank full before making a run otherwise you will have weight reduction.

I'm doing some test, to compare the differance in power as when you just flash the car and 2 weeks after' power. You will be surprise by the results.

I will post that as soon as I have the data, I think some people won't be happy.


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