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Wheel Spacer Size??
Hi, what spacer size would you recommend for stock wheels with Eibach Sportline lowering springs? Brand?
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I like my setup. check it out!
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www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28317
Check out my setup, I have 20mm project kics spacers 4 wheels, should be with any lv of lowering needs |
Bump on this.
I'm new to modifying my car. I ordered some Eibach Sportline Springs after reading some good reviews. I had no idea I was going to need spacers. I definitely want the wheels flush to the body of the car. From the above post I'm assuming that 20mm is the cleanest option? I was looking at the Eibach Spacers. Is there another brand you'd recommend? Also, what else am I going to need with the Sportline Springs? This car is just my DD and I don't do any track time. I'm simply lowering the car to get rid of wheel gap. I've read a lot about needing struts, dampers, and a bunch of other additional parts. Is this true even if I'm only using it as a daily driver? |
20-25mm "ADAPTERS"
They bolt up to the wheel hub, you won't need to put in longer hub bolts with adapters... Make sure you get hubcentric ones... |
So Adapters are different from Spacers because it'll let me use the same bolts?
Where can I find those? Do you have a link? I'd like to avoid purchasing the wrong item. I think I found them on Eibach: Widen Your Stance—For Better Handling Made from High-Strength Aircraft-Aluminum Alloy Precision Engineered Hub-Centric—for Perfect Fit and Wheel Balance Reduced Weight Compared to Steel Wheel Spacers Kit Includes 2 Spacers and all necessary mounting hardware Million-Mile Warranty Geez, $200 for a set of 2?? :( |
I bought the b2autodesigns BRZ spacer/adapter kit for my FRS. The spacers are hubcentric and B2 is a vendor on the board. They shipped FAST. Got spacers from FL to CA in 2 days. I was very happy with the purchase.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=b2auto Then I dropped it on RS-R SuperDowns yesterday, it looks OEM+++ and I'm quite happy. Car is being detailed today, but here is a pic I snapped late last night. Specs: 20mm front 25mm rear -1" front -1.125' rear (as of this morning) http://i.imgur.com/v6HgAeH.jpg |
Thank you so much! $209 shipped is way better than $400 without shipping!
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Which size do you recommend? I'm sure you've seen the FRS Concept before. I love how flush the wheels look on that car! What size would get me similar to this?
http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011...rs-86-concept/ |
im running 20mm front 30mm rear. Perfectly flush with the fenders on stock wheels.
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Thanks. Sounds dumb but I would'nt have realized the back fender is wider. Thanks for the heads up! Can't wait!!
I went by the dealership today and the actually have a black BRZ Limited with 18" black rims, on Eibach Pro line springs. It looked pretty sweet, but there was still a good 2 finger gap. It's not much, but I think the half inch more from the Sportline will look a little nicer in my eyes. Just gotta order those spacers and then I'm all set!! |
20mm/30mm will get you perfectly flush with the stock wheels/offsets and a 1" drop. Ask around for yourselves but consensus seemed to be H&R made the best spacers.
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Just a little info on our spacers guys.
Specs: Aluminum/Magnesium alloy mix. 1pc design. Hub centric to FRS/BRZ. High quality nuts and stud bolts. Easy bolt on. Sizes are 15, 20 and 25mm We have been selling these spacers for over 2 years. There is some feed back on many different forums. Check my post for some feedback from customers. Also installation video. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37407 http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4782/wkxo.jpg These fit perfect with factory wheels. Aftermarket wheels will need to have the whole in the back of the wheel to fit. Feel free to message me with any questions. Thanks Charles |
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Thanks for the information. I went ahead and ordered from your site. I got the 20/25 set. Can't wait to receive them! |
So I recently purchased Enkei RSF5's. I want to use my 20mm spacer on the rear wheels but I wanted to ask first what exactly did you mean by "after market wheels will need to have a hole in the back".
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30mm spacers definitely make the rear sit flush. I'm running H&R DRM Spacers in the rear and just ordered Ichiba V2 15mm spacers for the front. I have the car lowered on H&R Super Sport springs. When I measured, 20mm was going to be a little outside of the fender so I decided to go with the 15's. Went with Ichiba V2's in the front because you don't have to replace the stud with the V2's. The H&R 15's required longer studs.
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I just did 20mm front and 25mm rear on Eibach Sportlines. Car looks so much better. 30mm in the rear will match the front perfectly. But you really have to look for that. I see the car perfect finally.
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I'm running 20mm in the back only. Left the front stock. I had the 20mm front and 25mm back on for about 30 seconds. Poked out just a little too much for me. The 20mm only in the rear is MONEY.
(lowered on Eibach Pros) http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...pscbb5f483.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps63e02495.jpg |
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I think a 15mm front 25mm rear is money. And if you want like right at the fender 20mm and 30mm. On my Sportlines the 20mm up front barely poke, the edge of the rim protector on the tire is right at the fender line. |
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What would be the ideal setup (no poke) for stock ride height ?
15mm front, 20mm rear ? |
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25 on rear doesn't give you much poke, but to me, it looked like I had spacers. I'll post another pic in a bit of just the wheel well. You'll see what I'm talking about |
Also remember your camber will affect the look of the spacer as well!
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alright, here's what I have.
This is the 25mm spacer. http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps041edbef.jpg And the 20mm. Slight difference (look at the tread of the tire if you can't tell, the bulge of the tire was just outside the fender). The 20 mm spacers put the tire JUST inside the lip of the fender. It fills out the rear without looking like you're trying to fill it out with a spacer http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps3faa1797.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...psc9ac76fb.jpg |
**Point of clarity - When discussing "flushness" generally (on this board) it refers to being on the same plane with the top of the fender. I think @suaveflooder is talking about being flush with another part of the fender (the side or bottom perhaps), which is totally ok too. Just don't be confused at the varying recommendations due to this variable.
With that being said 20mm front and 25mm rear fits very well. There are probably a dozen examples on the board now with that combination (including my own car (posted earlier)). For perfect flush (with the top of the fender) 20mm front and 30mm rear is flush as an ironing board. Keep in mind thick spacers like these weigh over 1lb each so you will be adding unsprung weight to each corner. |
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I think that people associate the top of the tire with the fender as being "flush" which is what a 25mm spacer does. Sadly, there is a touch of "stretch" on the stock rims with the stock tires, leaving a bulge sticking out past the rims. It simply wasn't working for me. This looks GREAT on muscle cars where the tire is wider than the rim, but when the sidewall sits out further than the tread of the tire, it looks like it has a spacer IMHO (might change with different tires or more camber as MPI_Jack mentioned). Sorry to argue on this. I literally have the car sitting right in front of me. I can take pics of what ever you want. You can see in my pics on post above. (Sorry, just took these pics. Car is dirty, and I haven't driven it in a couple days) http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...psc2de85a6.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps68237ea0.jpg http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps076b184e.jpg |
@suaveflooder Not that I'm trying to get into some internet debate about it, but I also have tons of pics with 25mm in the rear & 20mm in the front and it does not poke at all. The wheels (and tires) are flush with the top of the fender. Same with a lot of other people on the board. Don't know why yours were poking at these sizes, nobody else I've seen has reported that. The stock tires do have "sidewall protection" (an extra layer of rubber on the sidewall that makes them look stretched when they're not), but even that really doesn't seem to poke at these sizes.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=72 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22596 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42516 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27873 And my FRS with 20mm and 25mm REAR - Raven FRS 25mm spacer vs stock WRB BRZ As you can see the rear 25mm on the Raven FRS has another 5 - 10mm of gap still available to be filled if someone wanted to go 30mm. http://i.imgur.com/jYABNlS.jpg Another pic same car 25mm Rear - 20mm Front - Neither is poking whatsoever beyond the top of the fender. http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/dVoJDLy.jpg |
Wheel Spacer Size??
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If you look at the pics closely, the TOP of the tire is very close to even with the fender. It's not easy to see in pictures, but in person, the tire would be past the fender. That's what I didn't my like on mine |
I had stock wheels with Sportlines for a few months. 20mm front looked great. 25mm rear looked good, but sometimes I felt like it was a bit off. From a side view I'd see too much shadow on the top of my tire and it would look like the rear needed to come out more. If I looked at the car from the rear however it looked like the wheels poked out a little from the frame which I did not like. It's hard to say what is perfect. Nothing is going to be perfect for everyone. It's just a matter of what look you feel is closest to what you want.
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I have a new question about wheel spacers. I'm looking for 10mm wheel spacers for my front wheels. 15mm is poking out a little too much for me.
Can I just order any 10mm spacer that is 5x100? Or is there something else I should be looking for? Just want to make sure before I purchase anything. |
http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg
What setup is on this spacer and spring combo? (20mm front 25mm rear spacer?) springs?? This is perfect for stock wheels! :w00t: |
Has anyone noticed any difference in steering feedback with the spacers?
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I have a question. Do I need someone to step on brake to get the hub to stay still when torqueing it down while it's in the air? Can it be done alone?
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Whats different between front and rear? |
^putting the car in gear and yanking the handbrake doesn't do much to the front hubs.
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Do we have to cut the stock bolts to get the spacer n wheel fit ?
Lets say H&R 20mm front, H&R 30mm rear. As I saw somewhere they said that 20mm I'll have to trim the front stock bolts ? |
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