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tonytduc 02-08-2013 12:46 AM

Wheel Spacer Size??
 
Hi, what spacer size would you recommend for stock wheels with Eibach Sportline lowering springs? Brand?

ZC6BRZ 02-08-2013 01:13 AM

I like my setup. check it out!

hypermax 02-08-2013 02:06 AM

www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28317

Check out my setup, I have 20mm project kics spacers 4 wheels, should be with any lv of lowering needs

ericmpena 08-02-2013 12:13 PM

Bump on this.

I'm new to modifying my car. I ordered some Eibach Sportline Springs after reading some good reviews.
I had no idea I was going to need spacers. I definitely want the wheels flush to the body of the car. From the above post I'm assuming that 20mm is the cleanest option? I was looking at the Eibach Spacers. Is there another brand you'd recommend?

Also, what else am I going to need with the Sportline Springs? This car is just my DD and I don't do any track time. I'm simply lowering the car to get rid of wheel gap.
I've read a lot about needing struts, dampers, and a bunch of other additional parts. Is this true even if I'm only using it as a daily driver?

KONVERTER 08-02-2013 12:18 PM

20-25mm "ADAPTERS"

They bolt up to the wheel hub, you won't need to put in longer hub bolts with adapters...

Make sure you get hubcentric ones...

ericmpena 08-02-2013 12:47 PM

So Adapters are different from Spacers because it'll let me use the same bolts?
Where can I find those? Do you have a link? I'd like to avoid purchasing the wrong item.

I think I found them on Eibach:

Widen Your Stance—For Better Handling
Made from High-Strength Aircraft-Aluminum Alloy
Precision Engineered Hub-Centric—for Perfect Fit and Wheel Balance
Reduced Weight Compared to Steel Wheel Spacers
Kit Includes 2 Spacers and all necessary mounting hardware
Million-Mile Warranty

Geez, $200 for a set of 2?? :(

DAEMANO 08-02-2013 01:00 PM

I bought the b2autodesigns BRZ spacer/adapter kit for my FRS. The spacers are hubcentric and B2 is a vendor on the board. They shipped FAST. Got spacers from FL to CA in 2 days. I was very happy with the purchase.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=b2auto

Then I dropped it on RS-R SuperDowns yesterday, it looks OEM+++ and I'm quite happy. Car is being detailed today, but here is a pic I snapped late last night.

Specs:
20mm front
25mm rear
-1" front
-1.125' rear (as of this morning)

http://i.imgur.com/v6HgAeH.jpg

ericmpena 08-02-2013 02:08 PM

Thank you so much! $209 shipped is way better than $400 without shipping!

ericmpena 08-02-2013 02:11 PM

Which size do you recommend? I'm sure you've seen the FRS Concept before. I love how flush the wheels look on that car! What size would get me similar to this?

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011...rs-86-concept/

Flat Black VW 08-02-2013 02:31 PM

im running 20mm front 30mm rear. Perfectly flush with the fenders on stock wheels.

ericmpena 08-03-2013 02:09 AM

Thanks. Sounds dumb but I would'nt have realized the back fender is wider. Thanks for the heads up! Can't wait!!

I went by the dealership today and the actually have a black BRZ Limited with 18" black rims, on Eibach Pro line springs. It looked pretty sweet, but there was still a good 2 finger gap. It's not much, but I think the half inch more from the Sportline will look a little nicer in my eyes.

Just gotta order those spacers and then I'm all set!!

mit_peid 08-03-2013 02:18 AM

20mm/30mm will get you perfectly flush with the stock wheels/offsets and a 1" drop. Ask around for yourselves but consensus seemed to be H&R made the best spacers.

b2autodesigns 08-03-2013 06:21 AM

Just a little info on our spacers guys.

Specs:
Aluminum/Magnesium alloy mix.
1pc design.
Hub centric to FRS/BRZ.
High quality nuts and stud bolts.
Easy bolt on.
Sizes are 15, 20 and 25mm

We have been selling these spacers for over 2 years. There is some feed back on many different forums. Check my post for some feedback from customers. Also installation video.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37407

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4782/wkxo.jpg

These fit perfect with factory wheels. Aftermarket wheels will need to have the whole in the back of the wheel to fit. Feel free to message me with any questions.

Thanks
Charles

ericmpena 08-06-2013 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b2autodesigns (Post 1115527)
Just a little info on our spacers guys.

Specs:
Aluminum/Magnesium alloy mix.
1pc design.
Hub centric to FRS/BRZ.
High quality nuts and stud bolts.
Easy bolt on.
Sizes are 15, 20 and 25mm

We have been selling these spacers for over 2 years. There is some feed back on many different forums. Check my post for some feedback from customers. Also installation video.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37407

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4782/wkxo.jpg

These fit perfect with factory wheels. Aftermarket wheels will need to have the whole in the back of the wheel to fit. Feel free to message me with any questions.

Thanks
Charles


Thanks for the information. I went ahead and ordered from your site. I got the 20/25 set. Can't wait to receive them!

ericmpena 10-16-2013 07:16 PM

So I recently purchased Enkei RSF5's. I want to use my 20mm spacer on the rear wheels but I wanted to ask first what exactly did you mean by "after market wheels will need to have a hole in the back".

Quote:

Originally Posted by b2autodesigns (Post 1115527)
Just a little info on our spacers guys.

Specs:
Aluminum/Magnesium alloy mix.
1pc design.
Hub centric to FRS/BRZ.
High quality nuts and stud bolts.
Easy bolt on.
Sizes are 15, 20 and 25mm

We have been selling these spacers for over 2 years. There is some feed back on many different forums. Check my post for some feedback from customers. Also installation video.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37407

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4782/wkxo.jpg

These fit perfect with factory wheels. Aftermarket wheels will need to have the whole in the back of the wheel to fit. Feel free to message me with any questions.

Thanks
Charles


b2autodesigns 10-16-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1274530)
So I recently purchased Enkei RSF5's. I want to use my 20mm spacer on the rear wheels but I wanted to ask first what exactly did you mean by "after market wheels will need to have a hole in the back".

When you install the spacers the stock wheel stud will stick out past the spacer. So the wheels will need to have an indention in the back of the wheel for the extra stud to fit in. Most wheels have these. Take a look at the back of the Enkei wheel. Next to the lug nut whole. Or post a picture of the back of the wheel.

Charles

Excelerate 10-17-2013 12:21 PM

30mm spacers definitely make the rear sit flush. I'm running H&R DRM Spacers in the rear and just ordered Ichiba V2 15mm spacers for the front. I have the car lowered on H&R Super Sport springs. When I measured, 20mm was going to be a little outside of the fender so I decided to go with the 15's. Went with Ichiba V2's in the front because you don't have to replace the stud with the V2's. The H&R 15's required longer studs.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...44931417_o.jpg

MPI_Jack 10-20-2013 02:03 PM

I just did 20mm front and 25mm rear on Eibach Sportlines. Car looks so much better. 30mm in the rear will match the front perfectly. But you really have to look for that. I see the car perfect finally.

KayC 10-20-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPI_Jack (Post 1281581)
I just did 20mm front and 25mm rear on Eibach Sportlines. Car looks so much better. 30mm in the rear will match the front perfectly. But you really have to look for that. I see the car perfect finally.

Post some pics please!

MPI_Jack 10-20-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayC (Post 1281731)
Post some pics please!

Here ya go.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...12688799_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...58150428_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...50233792_n.jpg

suaveflooder 10-20-2013 10:52 PM

I'm running 20mm in the back only. Left the front stock. I had the 20mm front and 25mm back on for about 30 seconds. Poked out just a little too much for me. The 20mm only in the rear is MONEY.

(lowered on Eibach Pros)
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...pscbb5f483.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps63e02495.jpg

MPI_Jack 10-20-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suaveflooder (Post 1282298)
I'm running 20mm in the back only. Left the front stock. I had the 20mm front and 25mm back on for about 30 seconds. Poked out just a little too much for me. The 20mm only in the rear is MONEY.

(lowered on Eibach Pros)
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...pscbb5f483.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps63e02495.jpg


I think a 15mm front 25mm rear is money. And if you want like right at the fender 20mm and 30mm. On my Sportlines the 20mm up front barely poke, the edge of the rim protector on the tire is right at the fender line.

suaveflooder 10-20-2013 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPI_Jack (Post 1282339)
I think a 15mm front 25mm rear is money. And if you want like right at the fender 20mm and 30mm. On my Sportlines the 20mm up front barely poke, the edge of the rim protector on the tire is right at the fender line.

To each their own ;)

MR2TOY 10-20-2013 11:19 PM

What would be the ideal setup (no poke) for stock ride height ?
15mm front, 20mm rear ?

suaveflooder 10-20-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR2TOY (Post 1282349)
What would be the ideal setup (no poke) for stock ride height ?
15mm front, 20mm rear ?

20mm rear. 15 on front would look good too. I just decided to keep it stock.

25 on rear doesn't give you much poke, but to me, it looked like I had spacers. I'll post another pic in a bit of just the wheel well. You'll see what I'm talking about

MPI_Jack 10-20-2013 11:34 PM

Also remember your camber will affect the look of the spacer as well!

suaveflooder 10-21-2013 12:10 AM

alright, here's what I have.

This is the 25mm spacer.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps041edbef.jpg

And the 20mm. Slight difference (look at the tread of the tire if you can't tell, the bulge of the tire was just outside the fender). The 20 mm spacers put the tire JUST inside the lip of the fender. It fills out the rear without looking like you're trying to fill it out with a spacer

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps3faa1797.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...psc9ac76fb.jpg

DAEMANO 10-21-2013 12:24 AM

**Point of clarity - When discussing "flushness" generally (on this board) it refers to being on the same plane with the top of the fender. I think @suaveflooder is talking about being flush with another part of the fender (the side or bottom perhaps), which is totally ok too. Just don't be confused at the varying recommendations due to this variable.

With that being said 20mm front and 25mm rear fits very well. There are probably a dozen examples on the board now with that combination (including my own car (posted earlier)). For perfect flush (with the top of the fender) 20mm front and 30mm rear is flush as an ironing board.

Keep in mind thick spacers like these weigh over 1lb each so you will be adding unsprung weight to each corner.

suaveflooder 10-21-2013 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 1282433)
**Point of clarity - When discussing "flushness" generally (on this board) it refers to being on the same plane with the top of the fender. I think @suaveflooder is talking about being flush with another part of the fender (the side or bottom perhaps), which is totally ok too. Just don't be confused at the varying recommendations due to this variable.

With that being said 20mm front and 25mm rear fits very well. There are probably a dozen examples on the board now with that combination (including my own car (posted earlier)). For perfect flush (with the top of the fender) 20mm front and 30mm rear is flush as an ironing board.

Keep in mind thick spacers like these weigh over 1lb each so you will be adding unsprung weight to each corner.

Phone is sitting ON the car. I'm talking about the part where the tire meets up with the rim. Before the bulge of the tire stuck out PAST the fender. Took a look at some cars that I liked the stance. Porsche mostly, because it had a big ass like our cars (I work in a fine dining restaurant, so this was not hard to come by) and made my decision based on that. The idea is to make the car look "stock" while filling out some of it's obvious flaws (my opinion on the "flaws") the rim itself is right on the fender, top of the tire, slightly in, part where the tire meets up with the rim, on the fender.

I think that people associate the top of the tire with the fender as being "flush" which is what a 25mm spacer does. Sadly, there is a touch of "stretch" on the stock rims with the stock tires, leaving a bulge sticking out past the rims. It simply wasn't working for me. This looks GREAT on muscle cars where the tire is wider than the rim, but when the sidewall sits out further than the tread of the tire, it looks like it has a spacer IMHO (might change with different tires or more camber as MPI_Jack mentioned).

Sorry to argue on this. I literally have the car sitting right in front of me. I can take pics of what ever you want. You can see in my pics on post above.

(Sorry, just took these pics. Car is dirty, and I haven't driven it in a couple days)

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...psc2de85a6.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps68237ea0.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps076b184e.jpg

DAEMANO 10-21-2013 02:16 AM

@suaveflooder Not that I'm trying to get into some internet debate about it, but I also have tons of pics with 25mm in the rear & 20mm in the front and it does not poke at all. The wheels (and tires) are flush with the top of the fender. Same with a lot of other people on the board. Don't know why yours were poking at these sizes, nobody else I've seen has reported that. The stock tires do have "sidewall protection" (an extra layer of rubber on the sidewall that makes them look stretched when they're not), but even that really doesn't seem to poke at these sizes.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=72
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22596
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42516
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27873

And my FRS with 20mm and 25mm
REAR - Raven FRS 25mm spacer vs stock WRB BRZ
As you can see the rear 25mm on the Raven FRS has another 5 - 10mm of gap still available to be filled if someone wanted to go 30mm.
http://i.imgur.com/jYABNlS.jpg

Another pic same car
25mm Rear - 20mm Front - Neither is poking whatsoever beyond the top of the fender.

http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dVoJDLy.jpg

suaveflooder 10-21-2013 02:56 AM

Wheel Spacer Size??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 1282600)
@suaveflooder Not that I'm trying to get into some internet debate about it, but I also have tons of pics with 25mm in the rear & 20mm in the front and it does not poke at all. The wheels (and tires) are flush with the top of the fender. Same with a lot of other people on the board. Don't know why yours were poking at these sizes, nobody else I've seen has reported that. The stock tires do have "sidewall protection" (an extra layer of rubber on the sidewall that makes them look stretched when they're not), but even that really doesn't seem to poke at these sizes.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=72
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22596
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42516
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27873

And my FRS with 20mm and 25mm
REAR - Raven FRS 25mm spacer vs stock WRB BRZ
As you can see the rear 25mm on the Raven FRS has another 5 - 10mm of gap still available to be filled if someone wanted to go 30mm.
http://i.imgur.com/jYABNlS.jpg

Another pic same car
25mm Rear - 20mm Front - Neither is poking whatsoever beyond the top of the fender.

http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dVoJDLy.jpg

I'm seeing what I saw on mine :/. I assume it's just a difference in preference. I'm not really trying to start an argument either. I'm guessing our ideas of "flush" are different. I have pics with all the spacers on and it looks just like the ones you posted. I wasn't happy :(

If you look at the pics closely, the TOP of the tire is very close to even with the fender. It's not easy to see in pictures, but in person, the tire would be past the fender. That's what I didn't my like on mine

ericmpena 10-21-2013 04:09 AM

I had stock wheels with Sportlines for a few months. 20mm front looked great. 25mm rear looked good, but sometimes I felt like it was a bit off. From a side view I'd see too much shadow on the top of my tire and it would look like the rear needed to come out more. If I looked at the car from the rear however it looked like the wheels poked out a little from the frame which I did not like. It's hard to say what is perfect. Nothing is going to be perfect for everyone. It's just a matter of what look you feel is closest to what you want.

ericmpena 01-26-2014 08:54 AM

I have a new question about wheel spacers. I'm looking for 10mm wheel spacers for my front wheels. 15mm is poking out a little too much for me.


Can I just order any 10mm spacer that is 5x100? Or is there something else I should be looking for? Just want to make sure before I purchase anything.

evostyle 01-29-2014 04:53 AM

http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg

What setup is on this spacer and spring combo? (20mm front 25mm rear spacer?) springs??

This is perfect for stock wheels! :w00t:

Ozzman 03-22-2014 12:18 AM

Has anyone noticed any difference in steering feedback with the spacers?

86Toyobaru 05-20-2014 09:42 AM

I have a question. Do I need someone to step on brake to get the hub to stay still when torqueing it down while it's in the air? Can it be done alone?

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 05-20-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86Toyobaru (Post 1748109)
I have a question. Do I need someone to step on brake to get the hub to stay still when torqueing it down while it's in the air? Can it be done alone?

depends if you're talking about front or rear spacers ;)

86Toyobaru 05-20-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeoneWhoIsntMe (Post 1748357)
depends if you're talking about front or rear spacers ;)



Whats different between front and rear?

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 05-20-2014 03:37 PM

^putting the car in gear and yanking the handbrake doesn't do much to the front hubs.

Sookainian 06-10-2014 07:03 PM

Do we have to cut the stock bolts to get the spacer n wheel fit ?


Lets say H&R 20mm front, H&R 30mm rear.


As I saw somewhere they said that 20mm I'll have to trim the front stock bolts ?


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