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suaveflooder 10-21-2013 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 1282433)
**Point of clarity - When discussing "flushness" generally (on this board) it refers to being on the same plane with the top of the fender. I think @suaveflooder is talking about being flush with another part of the fender (the side or bottom perhaps), which is totally ok too. Just don't be confused at the varying recommendations due to this variable.

With that being said 20mm front and 25mm rear fits very well. There are probably a dozen examples on the board now with that combination (including my own car (posted earlier)). For perfect flush (with the top of the fender) 20mm front and 30mm rear is flush as an ironing board.

Keep in mind thick spacers like these weigh over 1lb each so you will be adding unsprung weight to each corner.

Phone is sitting ON the car. I'm talking about the part where the tire meets up with the rim. Before the bulge of the tire stuck out PAST the fender. Took a look at some cars that I liked the stance. Porsche mostly, because it had a big ass like our cars (I work in a fine dining restaurant, so this was not hard to come by) and made my decision based on that. The idea is to make the car look "stock" while filling out some of it's obvious flaws (my opinion on the "flaws") the rim itself is right on the fender, top of the tire, slightly in, part where the tire meets up with the rim, on the fender.

I think that people associate the top of the tire with the fender as being "flush" which is what a 25mm spacer does. Sadly, there is a touch of "stretch" on the stock rims with the stock tires, leaving a bulge sticking out past the rims. It simply wasn't working for me. This looks GREAT on muscle cars where the tire is wider than the rim, but when the sidewall sits out further than the tread of the tire, it looks like it has a spacer IMHO (might change with different tires or more camber as MPI_Jack mentioned).

Sorry to argue on this. I literally have the car sitting right in front of me. I can take pics of what ever you want. You can see in my pics on post above.

(Sorry, just took these pics. Car is dirty, and I haven't driven it in a couple days)

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...psc2de85a6.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps68237ea0.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...ps076b184e.jpg

DAEMANO 10-21-2013 02:16 AM

@suaveflooder Not that I'm trying to get into some internet debate about it, but I also have tons of pics with 25mm in the rear & 20mm in the front and it does not poke at all. The wheels (and tires) are flush with the top of the fender. Same with a lot of other people on the board. Don't know why yours were poking at these sizes, nobody else I've seen has reported that. The stock tires do have "sidewall protection" (an extra layer of rubber on the sidewall that makes them look stretched when they're not), but even that really doesn't seem to poke at these sizes.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=72
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22596
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42516
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27873

And my FRS with 20mm and 25mm
REAR - Raven FRS 25mm spacer vs stock WRB BRZ
As you can see the rear 25mm on the Raven FRS has another 5 - 10mm of gap still available to be filled if someone wanted to go 30mm.
http://i.imgur.com/jYABNlS.jpg

Another pic same car
25mm Rear - 20mm Front - Neither is poking whatsoever beyond the top of the fender.

http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dVoJDLy.jpg

suaveflooder 10-21-2013 02:56 AM

Wheel Spacer Size??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 1282600)
@suaveflooder Not that I'm trying to get into some internet debate about it, but I also have tons of pics with 25mm in the rear & 20mm in the front and it does not poke at all. The wheels (and tires) are flush with the top of the fender. Same with a lot of other people on the board. Don't know why yours were poking at these sizes, nobody else I've seen has reported that. The stock tires do have "sidewall protection" (an extra layer of rubber on the sidewall that makes them look stretched when they're not), but even that really doesn't seem to poke at these sizes.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=72
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22596
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42516
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27873

And my FRS with 20mm and 25mm
REAR - Raven FRS 25mm spacer vs stock WRB BRZ
As you can see the rear 25mm on the Raven FRS has another 5 - 10mm of gap still available to be filled if someone wanted to go 30mm.
http://i.imgur.com/jYABNlS.jpg

Another pic same car
25mm Rear - 20mm Front - Neither is poking whatsoever beyond the top of the fender.

http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dVoJDLy.jpg

I'm seeing what I saw on mine :/. I assume it's just a difference in preference. I'm not really trying to start an argument either. I'm guessing our ideas of "flush" are different. I have pics with all the spacers on and it looks just like the ones you posted. I wasn't happy :(

If you look at the pics closely, the TOP of the tire is very close to even with the fender. It's not easy to see in pictures, but in person, the tire would be past the fender. That's what I didn't my like on mine

ericmpena 10-21-2013 04:09 AM

I had stock wheels with Sportlines for a few months. 20mm front looked great. 25mm rear looked good, but sometimes I felt like it was a bit off. From a side view I'd see too much shadow on the top of my tire and it would look like the rear needed to come out more. If I looked at the car from the rear however it looked like the wheels poked out a little from the frame which I did not like. It's hard to say what is perfect. Nothing is going to be perfect for everyone. It's just a matter of what look you feel is closest to what you want.

ericmpena 01-26-2014 08:54 AM

I have a new question about wheel spacers. I'm looking for 10mm wheel spacers for my front wheels. 15mm is poking out a little too much for me.


Can I just order any 10mm spacer that is 5x100? Or is there something else I should be looking for? Just want to make sure before I purchase anything.

evostyle 01-29-2014 04:53 AM

http://i.imgur.com/5s5BLq3.jpg

What setup is on this spacer and spring combo? (20mm front 25mm rear spacer?) springs??

This is perfect for stock wheels! :w00t:

Ozzman 03-22-2014 12:18 AM

Has anyone noticed any difference in steering feedback with the spacers?

86Toyobaru 05-20-2014 09:42 AM

I have a question. Do I need someone to step on brake to get the hub to stay still when torqueing it down while it's in the air? Can it be done alone?

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 05-20-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86Toyobaru (Post 1748109)
I have a question. Do I need someone to step on brake to get the hub to stay still when torqueing it down while it's in the air? Can it be done alone?

depends if you're talking about front or rear spacers ;)

86Toyobaru 05-20-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeoneWhoIsntMe (Post 1748357)
depends if you're talking about front or rear spacers ;)



Whats different between front and rear?

SomeoneWhoIsntMe 05-20-2014 03:37 PM

^putting the car in gear and yanking the handbrake doesn't do much to the front hubs.

Sookainian 06-10-2014 07:03 PM

Do we have to cut the stock bolts to get the spacer n wheel fit ?


Lets say H&R 20mm front, H&R 30mm rear.


As I saw somewhere they said that 20mm I'll have to trim the front stock bolts ?

jflogerzi 06-10-2014 09:29 PM

Depends on wheels. I highly recommend doing it right and just replacing the stock studs with lingers ones. With hub centric spacers they just against the hub and wheel once torqued down to spec. If your after market wheels have pockets next to the lug holes then you can buy spacers that have built un lugs into them

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executivekoala 06-10-2014 10:21 PM

I see alot of questions and I have run spacers on a lot of cars so here's stuff I learned
1. front hub you would do best with a air gun doing it with a torque wrench wont really cut it unless you have a friend with their foot on the brake.
2. If you run multi pattern wheels the stock lug may protrude from the spacer if its a press in. you have to run 25mm for no protrousion but stock rims this isnt a problem for.
3. Use some anti sieze on the sock and spacer lugs.
4. I would likely run open ended or extended lugs with spacers if the spacer lugs are extended.
5. Dont over torque the lugs- 90lbs should be the most.


Hope this helps


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