No push button start a good thing?
 

so i have been debating this for a bit and wanted to see what other enthusiasts thought.

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/word...t_interior.jpg
after looking at this picture i was thinking if you opted to get the gauge pod in place of the head unit do you guys think it would be possible to put a single din head unit in place of the little cubby. i know the shift lever would be in the way for CD's but i don't know many people who still use CD's anyways. please share your thoughts.

I think the guage pod won't be an "add-on" for the US market I am speaking from exp. I used to own a Hyundai Tiburon and the Korea version had a guage pod and it was not avail. in the US (although all the wires from the harness were taped to the body of the car throughout the interior )

well bush butten looks good.. but to be honest its a waist af space, electrol wires, time and brings more weight to the car. but if you like it thats your prob

well since it will be a JDM thing you know there will be a gabillion knock offs here in the US market.

It looks like there's enough room, but mounting it may be easier said than done.

I'm sure there will be plenty of aftermarket options, many of which will be even nicer than the oem version.

Yeah or if Subaru is running the wiring harness they are known to leave the wires taped to the body as well (found that on my wife's new Forester) makes "OEM" items easy.

The wires for the guages could be in there under carpet and behind panels ...just have to look.

I like the look of DEFI guages myself

Really now? The push button start adds weight, only because the Dual Zone HVAC might weigh more than the manual HVAC.

All I wanted was Scion to offer the push start with the manual HVAC and I would be ok with that but it looks like it is only available with the Dual Zone HVAC.

Hey there is still hope that it will be an option or included in the FRS Release 1.0 version.

i feel ya i roll DEFI's myself.

the only thing i've thought is that getting the actual head unit into place is probably going to be the hard part.

If you're concerned about the push button adding weight don't have a doughnut in the morning and it will be like removing the push button :D

Push start iPhone app? XD

well working on a car with a push button casues a lot of problems ask someone in the autobody/mechanics and they'll give there openion on push start at see if they like it :slap:

so i'm guessing people think it's possible ~.~

A push button bezel and wiring probably weigh all of 100 grams. You can fart and drop the curb weight down more.

.....what if it is made of lead? :iono:

If I get the FRS, and it does not offer a push start, I will somehow get it even if I have to order the parts JDM.

I am sure the wiring harness will be tucked up

TO BE HONEST I DONT CARE IF THE FRS HAS PUSH START OR NOT... like forreal

Word, doesn't matter at all to me.

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Would it matter if it either cost $1000 more or $1000 less MSRP?

Now that I look at the FRS interior, it's totally doable for me. So if it is substantially cheaper than brz, I'd go with it.

What if its the same price as the premium BRZ?

Then I'd go BRZ which is what I am leaning towards.(dependent on price)

That big what if is very unlikely as they`re too many. Decoration by many source that it will be price lower. Theyre an event where it might be higher who knows but i go subie if same but very unlikely

I want both, key turn and push to start. Turn key halfway then push to start ala s2000

No offense, but that sounds dumb lol

Careful snnoopy you might upset the lazy button pushers ( jk) doing what you say require effort, the anti scion mob might hear you!

The "High Voltage" tC has a proximity key push button start:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7...neer-receiver/

And if the FR-S a "flagship" car for Scion I don't see it not being an option.

In any case, I'd love to have it because I think it's a cool thing that won't really detract from the car's sporty-ness.

i personally never understood having both but to each their own.

my question about head unit placment got turned in to another push button start debate. i blame giccin.

Heres what i got from button push start from all these thread,they are useless hard to work with if you have to fix it and not even needed for the car to function.

People want it cause, either they like to push buttons,is too lazy or its cool.

Thats about the gist of it....

Is there anything significant mechanical functional reason for push start?

I hardly find its cool.... as a good sound reason..

Remote start...

Why? It's cool because you can have a spare key, and it doesn't cost a bajillion dollars to replace one, or get a copy.

Must..... resist...... trolling.....


lulz

But they have that without push start in the car,remote start is on a remote....which is great for warming up the car in winter. But that doesnt answer thequestion

The argument for against is much more then for...

So again whats so significant with push start? Mechanical and functional points please.

Yeah, that extra piece of plastic that makes the box smaller looks like it can be removed or if have to, dremel it off. Maybe scosche will offer a kit to relocate it there.

I'm ol skool, so I haven't confirmed to the whole push start era and glad that they didn't offer it standard. More manual stuff please!!

Keys have been use for thousands of years so I don't see them being phased out just yet. With key fobs costing several hundred dollars to replace, keys and locksmiths will be here for a little longer. :thumbsup:

It eliminates the mechanical aspect of the lock and key on the steering column. However, as you already state, it opens up the door for electrical issues to become a problem down the road.

Push button start and a smart key type setup are not the same thing. If you live somewhere that has a serious winter a smart key is awesome. Keyhole locks freeze, and fiddling with keys when its cold and windy sucks. The key never has to leave your pocket and you can still open any door or start the car, not a silly option for a DD. Not all premium options are fluff, calm down and think a little. Some people want these type options, they are not dumb because they do.

i guess it wouldnt matter i wanna see the price first for the frs or brz

Ok so far one good argument for push start

Its good for winter

Thats one folks what else?

And longhorn or someone knowledgeable does this electrical problem common? How much are FOB keys?

Im trying to complie againsts and for using mechanical and functional reasoning

I believe Viper has an app, where you can get that installed and start your car from your phone.
...but its $$$