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Brett 02-06-2013 05:56 AM

Moving to Colorado
 
My wife and I, the dogs, the cats, and my FR-S are moving to the Denver area in a few weeks.

Does anyone know about how much personal property tax is on these cars when you go to register your car? Our realtor was telling us that tags for her new car were about $600-$700. I think I paid $85 last year in OH.

What's the deal with the octane of your gas out there? We were out there house hunting this weekend, and it seemed like everything was 2 points lower than everywhere else I've ever been. Can I not get 93 octane?

Thanks,
Brett

skatery1989 02-06-2013 08:55 AM

Are you moving to the city of Denver? And we have 91. And that's it. Depend where about you move there are a few E-85 station.

Brett 02-06-2013 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=skatery1989;715515]Are you moving to the city of Denver?QUOTE]

We are moving to Parker.

skatery1989 02-06-2013 02:41 PM

They might even be higher then Denver ya you'll pay between 400-500 for plates most likely.

wheelhaus 02-06-2013 03:13 PM

The rates can be calculated on one of the sites, but it's supposed to be different for each county. I think Parker is in Douglas County, which is where I live. Here's a formula that will get you pretty close:

Start with the car's original MSRP (sale price doesn't matter)
The taxable value of MSRP is 85% for cars, 75% for trucks.
The taxable value is then multiplied by a % to find each year's registration cost.
From the first registration date when new, each year's registration taxes are based on a 12mo period
First year of service is 2.1%
Second year is 1.5%
And it continues to go down each years can't remember exact %'s after that.

Example: say MSRP is 26,000.
26,000 x 0.85 = 22,100
22,100 x 0.015 = 330 for 2nd year.
There's some fees added on, i think around $75, so I'd expect around 400 or so for the above #'s.

First year when new gets ugly because you might need to wait a month or two for the paperwork to be processed with the state, so the first year sometimes needs to cover 13 or 14 months at 2.1%. But, the date when you register is when renewal will be required next year.

edit: here's the site, the calculator is down for now:
http://www.douglas.co.us/motorvehicl...-fee-estimate/

wheelhaus 02-06-2013 03:18 PM

BTW welcome! What's the reason for the move?

I also moved from Ohio to Colorado, and I haven't looked back; love it here.

Brett 02-07-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelhaus (Post 716378)
BTW welcome! What's the reason for the move?

I also moved from Ohio to Colorado, and I haven't looked back; love it here.

Thanks for the info! That's exactly what I needed.

Always wanted to love there, and I found a good job out there. I'll be out there in about a week or so.

Can't wait for autocross season to start now :)

Thanks!
Brett

Anorax 02-09-2013 09:06 PM

Registered mine in (BRZ) Douglas county - ~700

FR-S should be slightly less.

MTCRX 02-09-2013 09:21 PM

I believe the octane is lower because of the altitude. With the thinner air you are about experience the car does not need the higher octane to run properly.

wheelhaus 02-10-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTCRX (Post 724377)
I believe the octane is lower because of the altitude. With the thinner air you are about experience the car does not need the higher octane to run properly.

Correct. That's the ONE thing that sucks about Denver. The lower air density means there's about 20% fewer air molecules to be compressed (about 12psi psi atmospheric (vs. sea level 14.5 psi). So, since there's fewer air molecules, it generates less heat under compression, and 91 octane is the highest you'll find. There's a select few stations that sell higher octane race gas, but they're rare and expensive. Water boils just over 200°F, instead of 212°F.

DIF 06-24-2013 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelhaus (Post 725474)
Correct. That's the ONE thing that sucks about Denver. The lower air density means there's about 20% fewer air molecules to be compressed (about 12psi psi atmospheric (vs. sea level 14.5 psi). So, since there's fewer air molecules, it generates less heat under compression, and 91 octane is the highest you'll find. There's a select few stations that sell higher octane race gas, but they're rare and expensive. Water boils just over 200°F, instead of 212°F.

And there's a whole lot less of it to breath too! I've been dizzy since I got here 19 years ago.
:bonk:


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