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Panda Grahams 01-30-2013 02:20 PM

Used BRZ?
 
I'm nearing the day when I can buy an 86/Fr-s/BRZ. Trying to sell my current car before I move on. Once that is over with, I'll have a budget of roughly $26k. I've followed this car since the idea was very first put on paper. At launch I fell in love with what Subaru did. My neighbor has an STI and I've grown up around Toyota and Subaru cars. However, owning a Subaru just seems more appealing to me. At first I thought I was going to get the Fr-s, but I recently found that I can buy a used BRZ for the same price of a new Fr-s. I would love to get a limited, because I would feel like my money went further (tooshies toasters, fog lights, spoiler,....). But that would force me to go used. Wondering what you guys would recommend. Sorry if this is a bit vague.

EDIT: Also, if said used BRZ is 800 miles away, could I use that in the negotiation? Or are Subaru dealers hard ballers?

whaap 01-30-2013 02:27 PM

There are many cars I would consider buying used. Examples would be a CR-V, Camry or Corolla. There are many cars I would not buy used. Several of them would be a Corvette, Porsche (I did that once-mistake), the BRZ or the FR-S. The odds are too great that you would be buying something that has been thrashed. Personally I wouldn't even buy a new one that had been used as a demo. If you were buying from the owner and he happened to be an old fart like me that could make a difference.

Meehow86 01-30-2013 03:06 PM

It is odd seeing a used BRZ with <5,000 miles on the odometer for sale (just an example). You have to be extra cautious about something like that. Chances are these used cars were put through the ringer pretty hard.

chenshuo 01-30-2013 03:10 PM

people who sell their BRZ this early on in the game must not love the car, that means they probably treat it like shit.

gily25 01-30-2013 03:31 PM

If you look around and you're willing to negotiate you should be able to get a new BRZ premium m/t for under $26k w/ options. Might be able to negotiate a new Limited for under $26k w/out options.

Some dealership owners (not just toyota and subaru) bought these during the early months to try them out, knowing they could put them on their own lots used. If you went used/demo you're just asking for stress. The only way it makes sense is if you knew you were going to start modifying it from week one. Sounds like it's a daily driver for you so I'd skip a used/demo one.

rhoyle 01-30-2013 03:35 PM

My BRZ had 900 miles on it. Was as close to new as possible. Frankly, I don't care what the previous owner did to it. I got a great deal and would do it again in a heartbeat.

That and I'll be out of it as soon as the 4C is available...

Panda Grahams 01-30-2013 09:11 PM

Thanks for the responses, guys! I bought my 370z used and haven't had a single problem, perhaps just a luck of the draw. I know how sports cars can get though... Would a dealer car be a better option? Is it possible to find out if a car is a dealer car, will the dealership tell me that? Worst thing happens, I end up with a new Fr-s...bummer...haha.

BlaineWasHere 01-30-2013 09:15 PM

There are some people who made poor financial decisions when they bough the car and need to get out of the payments. I'd say you'd be safe buying from someone in that situation.

And if there are not too many miles on the car I would buy it used regardless. So what if they did beat on it for a few thousand miles? It's not like a turbo car that's been beat on for 40, 50 or 60K miles.

I've already got 20K miles on my car and most of them were spent beating the shit out of the car... isn't that what this car is for?

mush 01-30-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whaap (Post 699715)
There are many cars I would consider buying used. Examples would be a CR-V, Camry or Corolla. There are many cars I would not buy used. Several of them would be a Corvette, Porsche (I did that once-mistake), the BRZ or the FR-S. The odds are too great that you would be buying something that has been thrashed. Personally I wouldn't even buy a new one that had been used as a demo. If you were buying from the owner and he happened to be an old fart like me that could make a difference.

old people cant have fun?:bellyroll:

ANY used sporty car has been beat IMO i dont care if the previous owner was 80 he most likely floored it a few times to feel young again haha

Jaylyons1 01-30-2013 09:50 PM

Honestly, it's not a smart choice to go for a used BRZ right now. They are selling for the same price as the new ones depending on your area. I actually picked mine up new at a dealer that had a used one in stock which had a higher price tag. It all depends on the loss the dealer took to get the car in and how much they can lose to you.

You can't really use the fact that they are far away though. This will actually work against you since the dealer knows once they get you in the store, there is more of a chance of you driving home in their car. You still have to make sure they know you are willing to walk if you don't get the deal you want though.

n8dog11914 01-30-2013 09:54 PM

Well, I must have been one of the lucky ones. I found my WRB Limited Manual BRZ back in November with 800 miles on the clock. I drove up to NC from GA and picked up the car with a check in hand for $26K. The owner was a great guy and was just selling because his kids didn't like the back seat and he preferred his old E30 M3 over the BRZ. I thought that was a perfectly reasonable excuse and have been enjoying my girl ever since! :)

Also, the original owner posted here on the FT86 forum for sale section, so just keep an eye out there.

ashtray 01-30-2013 10:45 PM

Just know you might get a better loan rate on a new car than a used one. That difference of a couple percent might make up the difference in new vs used.

New BRZ Limited is $27k or so. I think in CA, I was around $31k out the door with 8% tax, tags, fees, destination.

n2oinferno 01-30-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mush (Post 700740)
old people cant have fun?:bellyroll:

ANY used sporty car has been beat IMO i dont care if the previous owner was 80 he most likely floored it a few times to feel young again haha

Flooring a car a few times is hardly beating on it. I'd rather buy a car that was taken to redline every once in a while than something that puttered around under 3k all the time.

Jaylyons1 01-30-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtray (Post 700925)
Just know you might get a better loan rate on a new car than a used one. That difference of a couple percent might make up the difference in new vs used.

New BRZ Limited is $27k or so. I think in CA, I was around $31k out the door with 8% tax, tags, fees, destination.

Yea that too. Can be as much as 2-3% which is pretty huge and would offset the cost of a new car in most cases.


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