Errr... Hate to ask... Crash Testing??
 

I really hate to be the guy asking but I do however may have kids in the future and looking to get into a BRZ at some point possibly as a Daily Driver.

Has their been any news on crash testing at all, obviously my intentions are not to get in accident with this? This is a small car, which can hold 4 people (4 seats at least) at least my S2000 has some gap from the front and rear and has a very strong windshield for it being a convertible but kids won't be riding in the S2K. This should be on everyone's mind as well as a weekend track racer. I do know however that a roll-cage can be installed rather easily.


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If this needs to be moved I'm sorry please move it but there is two individual BRZ/86 Forums, not a single general discussion topic area.

just give me the ratings, i don't want to see this thing being smashed into or it smashing into things

I don't think it's been rated yet, or if it has, I haven't seen any rating published yet.

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. Very interested to know...

I read in one of the drive reviews that Toyota had promised/was anticipating a 5 star NCAP crash test rating. I'm not sure which article it was, maybe InsideLine?

Edit: Found it

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...36&postcount=1

Not sure how accurate that article is because I could not dig up another source that mentioned crash worthiness... of course that will come later closer to release, right now the journalists only focus on how it drives.

Well, it'll have to pass new 2011+ NHTSA crash testing, which now includes rollover testing along with frontal, side, roof crush resistance, ejection probability, and more of course. Just right there you know it's going to be safer than any car from 2010 [or, gasp, 1989], when crash standards were much easier to pass. New cars are relatively speaking extremely safe, even "low scoring" ones.

It's a $20k car aimed at teenagers...just wait and see the results after it's been out for a month.

Does that mean we should wait to see how teenagers fare after crashing the car? :thumbdown:

Will have a reinforced ring shaped frame. Should fare well as Subaru does make safety their priority.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2692

Wasn't it because of Subaru that the jaws of life had to be redesigned after they couldn't cut through the B pillar of one of their cars? Or maybe that was Volvo...don't remember.

Yes it is the Subaru. 8 layers of steel in the B-pillar.


http://saab92x.com/viewtopic.php?id=5483

I was thinking the same thing. :bellyroll:


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Wow, if that article holds true, then the BRZ should be a very good car regarding crash safety. That design looks pretty awesome!

Ive been concerned about this from day one. I really hope it holds subaru's safety standards up and does extremely well.

Good to know that safety isn't compromised with the low weight :)

Thank you all... very insightful.

Fixed :)


Or perhaps that should be :(

I still can't get over how narrow those tires are. I'm sure my Altima has wider tires than these cars lol.

They said it will be 5star ancap(top marks)

Seen in an Australian review.

I would think it should have a decent crash rating, but as for insurance- this will probably make my wallet hurt the most.

Any updates on this yet? Has it been crash tested yet?

And why is this thread in the pictures and wallpaper section?

Both Subaru and Toyota tend to focus greatly on safety so it "should" fair very well if not 5 stars.

I'm guessing it will have 7 or 8 airbags.

We have front, side, side curtain, so that is 6.

We have confirmed in the US that it has knee airbags as well. If that is driver only, or driver and passenger we don't know.


I expect this to be very safe compared to any other sports car you could sample in the same price/size.

Having personally put my knees through the dashboard of a car, I speak from firsthand experience when I say that is the most ridiculous thing I have heard of all week.

No one knows, but this is what is holding up pricing and option info. I'm sure it will pass with flying colors, but they can't offer a release date until the feds have given their OK.

i was thinking the same thing :bellyroll:

What is ridiculous about it? Almost all new cars have them, and I'm sure even economy cars will have them within a few years.

They prevent your femur from breaking on the steering column or dash by keeping the legs in a good position away from harm.

I'm also curious what you mean. Having never "put my knees through the dashboard" I don't understand what you're saying. Watching a few NHTSA crash videos, it seems like a good idea. Please elaborate.

Anything with 3.5 stars or better is good enough for me.
I have never been in a serious accident and I don't plan to.

It would not be an "accident" if you plan on it. That being said I would rather be in a car full of airbags and have good crash protection if and when an accident does happen. Small size will be at a disadvantage to some degree. Search for the Fit versus accord crash test or Camry vs Yaris on youtube if you want to see why.

always keep safe distance, look before you turn, and drive yellow cars.

Good luck "looking" out the back and rear quarters of that super high-ass Veloster CUV. Only high-volume car with crappier sight lines: the Camaro.

Several years back I was riding shotgun when my GF at the time rear-ended an elderly couple at ~50 mph vs. ~20 mph. I slid forward a bit in the seat and my knees hit the dash, hard. I left a pair of fist-sized holes in the plastic. I had a purple bruise on each knee and a few scratches and that was it. There were no broken bones, hell I didn't even take an aspirin.

So the idea of adding extra airbags just to prevent that from happening is, to me, laughable. Even more so considering that when I drive my car, my knees are already less than half an inch from the dash and the steering column is between my knees. There is no way an airbag could protect my knees in my car, and there is nothing down there that they need to be protected from. It's just molded plastic with several inches of air behind it. To think that people need to be coddled to such an extent simply boggles my mind.

And as for breaking femurs, if I was in an accident where my legs were subjected to enough force to break a femur I would count myself very lucky to come out of it with just a broken leg. Femurs are tough SOBs, and any crash serious enough to break one could easily be fatal.

Thanks. Usually that type of collisions are less lethal, aren't they? Especially, if I am cutting them off in my blind spot? :p

Yeah, despite all the "light weight" marketing, this thing really is built kind of like a tank - as are all Subarus. Especially the roof.....

Apart from just how small and light it is, and the fact that physics cannot be defeated and it's not going to fare as well as an F-150 in a crash with a normal sized car, this is gonna be a well engineered piece.

That seems rather short sighted. Not everyone is half an inch from the dash and there are more than just the femur in a leg. I've hurt my knees bad enough from falls rock climbing that I couldn't walk, so, knee airbag sound reasonable to me.

To think yourself impervious to accidents is pretty silly. You know, that there are other people on the road, who despite your driving ability, can and will hit your car?

Yeah, femurs are tough as hell...if you break a femur there's gonna be multiple other places that get broken.

Right before we deployed, we were doing PT on one of the tank roads in Germany. before 8am, civilians aren't allowed on them. We were jogging and a car going about 40km/h came over a crest and hit one of our guys, took his legs out and send him flying about 20 feet.

He broke his wrist and bruised the hell out of his thigh. No broken femur. The driver of the car was definitely more frightened too. Running over a Ranger in your car and seeing him sail 20 feet through the air, only to immediately get back up and pull you out of the vehicle, bleeding all over you from a gashed elbow, is apparently pretty traumatic. We had to pull him off...hahaha.

I disagree. My knees being close to the dash is hardly the crux of my argument. I am saying that there is nothing down there that is particularly likely to cause more than a few cuts and bruises. There is a massive difference between hitting your knees on solid stone and hitting them on ~1/8th" of plastic.

I was not the one who brought up femurs. I was simply responding to bambbrose's implication that hitting the dashboard or steering column could cause a femur to fracture.