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marky 01-15-2013 01:01 AM

lux care worth it at dealer ?
 
is the lux care worth getting it installed at the dealer? i got a call to go and get it done...is that a extra charge? not sure if that was part of my buying my FRS 1 week ago.. said it could take a hour or so:confused0068:

anyone get this done at the dealer on there new frs/brz?

loving the car day by day:burnrubber:

Estey 01-15-2013 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by marky (Post 665725)
is the lux care worth getting it installed at the dealer? i got a call to go and get it done...is that a extra charge? not sure if that was part of my buying my FRS 1 week ago.. said it could take a hour or so:confused0068:

anyone get this done at the dealer on there new frs/brz?

loving the car day by day:burnrubber:

Im pretty sure its something that you paid for when you bought the car. Its a dealer add on.

campy 01-15-2013 02:01 AM

That's paint protection right? May as well, even though I'm sure the Toyota paint will hold up for a long time (as opposed to, say, GM paint :lol: )

marky 01-15-2013 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Estey (Post 665827)
Im pretty sure its something that you paid for when you bought the car. Its a dealer add on.

thats what i tot.. thanks.. will get it done..weather seems to be good and clear now.. they better not ding up my baby

marky 01-15-2013 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by campy (Post 665833)
That's paint protection right? May as well, even though I'm sure the Toyota paint will hold up for a long time (as opposed to, say, GM paint :lol: )

yeah its like a paint protection like the opti coating clear thing....im sure paint will last is taken care of but the front/rear lights are the thing to keep out the sun as much possible to keep it getting baked.. ordered me a cover

jmaryt 01-15-2013 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by campy (Post 665833)
That's paint protection right? May as well, even though I'm sure the Toyota paint will hold up for a long time (as opposed to, say, GM paint :lol: )

both ''water based" wouldn't count on it! "softer" paint! not as durable as "chemical" based paint. (e.p.a.) regulations changed this some years ago!
"good" coat of wax applied from time to time,is really all that's required,that,
and regular washing...just sayin'

cgrey 01-15-2013 02:54 AM

Nothing from a dealer is ever worth it.

JLMtm 01-15-2013 02:58 AM

I also got the "paint protection plan" and got it done -which was an add on
Is it same as getting opti coated or something similar?

kthxbai 01-15-2013 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by campy (Post 665833)
That's paint protection right? May as well, even though I'm sure the Toyota paint will hold up for a long time (as opposed to, say, GM paint :lol: )

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Originally Posted by marky (Post 665834)
thats what i tot.. thanks.. will get it done..weather seems to be good and clear now.. they better not ding up my baby

FYI Paint on the twins are not from Toyota...they are Subaru paint, which reading from several members' post on this forums seems to be thin and not as durable as other factory paint jobs.

russv 01-15-2013 11:54 AM

Biggest dealer scam! Get a good paint sealant and do it yourself in an hour and costs less than $20.

jmaryt 01-15-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by russv (Post 666353)
Biggest dealer scam! Get a good paint sealant and do it yourself in an hour and costs less than $20.

then do it again in 6 months! you'll be good to go!

marky 01-16-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JLMtm (Post 665915)
I also got the "paint protection plan" and got it done -which was an add on
Is it same as getting opti coated or something similar?

yeah should be... but dam this lux crap is expensive:confused0068:

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Originally Posted by russv (Post 666353)
Biggest dealer scam! Get a good paint sealant and do it yourself in an hour and costs less than $20.

yeah just looked at my papers and saw the price :confused0068::paddle: holy cow...:mad0259: still have not got the chance to take it in and get it done.. looks like i paid/signed the papers for it :mad0259: lesson learned :slap:

EBMCS03 01-16-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by marky (Post 668110)
yeah should be... but dam this lux crap is expensive:confused0068:



yeah just looked at my papers and saw the price :confused0068::paddle: holy cow...:mad0259: still have not got the chance to take it in and get it done.. looks like i paid/signed the papers for it :mad0259: lesson learned :slap:

How much was it? I wasn't even offered it. Even tho I saw many packages sitting behind the finance lady.

marky 01-16-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EBMCS03 (Post 668344)
How much was it? I wasn't even offered it. Even tho I saw many packages sitting behind the finance lady.

Like 500+ for it.....

Anyone know if I can cancel it still? Have not taken my FRS to the dealer and get it done yet.. Now thinking about it seems like not worth it and I don't have time to go get it done when I can do it myself

Mr. Sparkle 01-16-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JLMtm (Post 665915)
I also got the "paint protection plan" and got it done -which was an add on
Is it same as getting opti coated or something similar?

Definitely not the same thing as Opti-Coat at all. Opti-Coat is like a hand applied layer of clear coat that is permanent. The dealer offers nothing like this. They have sealants similar to most over the counter stuff

Here is an MSN article discussing the dealer options to avoid. It specifically addresses the dealer paint protection option and essentially says its a goof

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...=476382&page=0



"Paint Sealant: This is another instance where the dealership hopes the car buyer will be gullible enough to believe that it’s using some special technique and material that’ll keep your car’s paint looking factory fresh, when it’s typically the same products found at any autohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png parts store. The best way to preserve your car’s finish is to wash and wax it regularly. Better yet, take the money you’d pay the dealer to “seal” your paint and instead spend it on the occasional professional detailing."



Opti-Coat is NOT found at any auto parts store and the professional version is only available to authorized installers

Also the dealer is not doing any paint correction, which is typically inherent in the cost of Opti-Coat application. So basically for the money you're spending you could probably find someone to make the paint perfect, and apply more durable protection

marky 01-16-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle (Post 668762)
Definitely not the same thing as Opti-Coat at all. Opti-Coat is like a hand applied layer of clear coat that is permanent. The dealer offers nothing like this. They have sealants similar to most over the counter stuff

Here is an MSN article discussing the dealer options to avoid. It specifically addresses the dealer paint protection option and essentially says its a goof

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...=476382&page=0



"Paint Sealant: This is another instance where the dealership hopes the car buyer will be gullible enough to believe that it’s using some special technique and material that’ll keep your car’s paint looking factory fresh, when it’s typically the same products found at any autohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png parts store. The best way to preserve your car’s finish is to wash and wax it regularly. Better yet, take the money you’d pay the dealer to “seal” your paint and instead spend it on the occasional professional detailing."



Opti-Coat is NOT found at any auto parts store and the professional version is only available to authorized installers

Also the dealer is not doing any paint correction, which is typically inherent in the cost of Opti-Coat application. So basically for the money you're spending you could probably find someone to make the paint perfect, and apply more durable protection

I see thanks for that info....

Can I cancel my lux care add on? Was thinking of getting it done this week..
Call the dealer and tell them I don't want it?
They might say some BS that its part of the purchase but I have not got it done yet...

The dealer tinted my windows and it was 800$ add on..what a rip off..trying not to spend another 500$ on this lux care thing...

Thanks

kthxbai 01-16-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by marky (Post 668749)
Like 500+ for it.....

Anyone know if I can cancel it still? Have not taken my FRS to the dealer and get it done yet.. Now thinking about it seems like not worth it and I don't have time to go get it done when I can do it myself

Read the fine print on your luxe care warranty that you signed and look for a section on "cancellation of policy/warranty". There should be information either at the bottom or on the back. Most warranties/extra car care packages can be cancelled by the purchaser. In addition, certain states may have additional regulations that the company (not necessarily the dealer) or the purchaser must abide by.

In the midst of getting my dream car and being very hungry, my fiance and I agreed to purchase a paint repair warranty AND mechanical warranty. When we got home, we looked at the paperwork and almost had a panic attack as to why we agreed to purchase these extra warranties. However, the fine print regarding cancellation for the state of Florida stated we had up to 60 days to submit a letter requesting the cancellation of our warranty with a full refund less administration fee (~5%). In most cases you have up to 30 days from the original purchase date to cancel this warranty or policy. Just mailed our letter for cancellation the other day, so hope they will not give us too much trouble.

marky 01-17-2013 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kthxbai (Post 670275)
Read the fine print on your luxe care warranty that you signed and look for a section on "cancellation of policy/warranty". There should be information either at the bottom or on the back. Most warranties/extra car care packages can be cancelled by the purchaser. In addition, certain states may have additional regulations that the company (not necessarily the dealer) or the purchaser must abide by.

In the midst of getting my dream car and being very hungry, my fiance and I agreed to purchase a paint repair warranty AND mechanical warranty. When we got home, we looked at the paperwork and almost had a panic attack as to why we agreed to purchase these extra warranties. However, the fine print regarding cancellation for the state of Florida stated we had up to 60 days to submit a letter requesting the cancellation of our warranty with a full refund less administration fee (~5%). In most cases you have up to 30 days from the original purchase date to cancel this warranty or policy. Just mailed our letter for cancellation the other day, so hope they will not give us too much trouble.

thanks will look into it... yeah i was like brain dead after a while at the dealer..was hungry and was not myself and i was just signing papers blah blah blah i just want to go drive my car home and sleep:bellyroll:

kthxbai 01-17-2013 12:30 AM

I can totally agree!! Felt the same way, except I was too scared to drive the FR-S at first because I felt it was too good to be true. So I asked my fiance to drive the car to dinner and then home; we'll just say I didn't have to ask him twice:burnrubber:

marky 01-17-2013 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kthxbai (Post 670354)
I can totally agree!! Felt the same way, except I was too scared to drive the FR-S at first because I felt it was too good to be true. So I asked my fiance to drive the car to dinner and then home; we'll just say I didn't have to ask him twice:burnrubber:

yeah i didnt even plan on getting the car yet just to look at it and i was like eh its the new years and birthday soon :happyanim: that day was not planned out.. still in shock i have it..now im in shock of this lux care rip off and the 800$ window tint from the dealer :mad0259... im slowly starting to see a bit out on the streets but still very limited..this car is selling like hot cakes.. dont last much at dealers..well i do see some but im sure its automatic :bonk: not much wants it.. dealer has like 3/5 frs in stock and its auto..

Paul_S 01-17-2013 10:14 AM

The only thing I EVER purchase from the dealer is the car itself and any OEM parts that aren't available elsewhere. $800.00 window tint....no way and demand a refund on the coating. Don't let them tell you it's rolled into the total purchase price.The squeaky wheel gets the grease as they say.

marky 01-17-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 670889)
The only thing I EVER purchase from the dealer is the car itself and any OEM parts that aren't available elsewhere. $800.00 window tint....no way and demand a refund on the coating. Don't let them tell you it's rolled into the total purchase price.The squeaky wheel gets the grease as they say.

i have not got my clear coat thing done yet but i have a dumb copy of it and they called me to come in and get it done.. going to call them and cancel it..

what if they say you cant cancel it? i mean they have not even did the work on it.. man dealers sure like to suck every penny out people pockets.. guy called me yesterday day and how is my car doing and he was like hey if you know anyone wants to buy a car send them my way:bonk:

EBMCS03 01-17-2013 10:16 PM

U should be able to cancel it I hope.

Dealers are a business they / anyone in the same situation is set up to try and make the most profit.

marky 01-19-2013 02:54 PM

Called the dealer and they say I can't cancel it that is part of the deal... Wtf ..!! They will charge me 530$ for something that has not been done to my car.. They are going to call me back and see if I can cancel it .. Lady was tell me that "oh you will have a nice clean car after years " yeah right after you slap me with a 800$ window tint..

They want to me to go and get it done asap:bs: so I can't for sure have it and can't cancel it and its a for sure done deal..

marky 01-19-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EBMCS03 (Post 672422)
U should be able to cancel it I hope.

Dealers are a business they / anyone in the same situation is set up to try and make the most profit.

Your right dealers sure trying to make every penny.. I gave them a good review too.. I'm waiting for a call back and see if I can cancel it due to one said no its a non cancel thing..

EBMCS03 01-19-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marky (Post 675742)
Your right dealers sure trying to make every penny.. I gave them a good review too.. I'm waiting for a call back and see if I can cancel it due to one said no its a non cancel thing..


Keep bugging them, Of course they'll try and tell you no first and if you accept then they make the money. If you keep insisting then they may eventually cave in and just refund you.

Look through the Luxo package paperwork and see if there is anything about cancellation.

But from all the cars my family has owned. We have never purchased these paint protection things. my mom's 2006 Mercedes the dealer threw it in for free and of all the cars we had the paint and durability... smoothness... wax lasting longest was in fact her Mercedes. No idea if the mid 2000 Mercedes just has better paint than anyone else or if it was really due to the paint protection. My sisters 2012 Mercedes does not have the paint protection and the paint does not feel as nice as my moms paint. so thats just my prior experience. No way to really know for sure

marky 01-19-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EBMCS03 (Post 675783)
Keep bugging them, Of course they'll try and tell you no first and if you accept then they make the money. If you keep insisting then they may eventually cave in and just refund you.

Look through the Luxo package paperwork and see if there is anything about cancellation.

But from all the cars my family has owned. We have never purchased these paint protection things. my mom's 2006 Mercedes the dealer threw it in for free and of all the cars we had the paint and durability... smoothness... wax lasting longest was in fact her Mercedes. No idea if the mid 2000 Mercedes just has better paint than anyone else or if it was really due to the paint protection. My sisters 2012 Mercedes does not have the paint protection and the paint does not feel as nice as my moms paint. so thats just my prior experience. No way to really know for sure

say in the back that
"cancellation - the limited warranty is non-cancelable"
im sure they mean as in after its been installed/worked on.. also says
"5 year limited warranty"

i take care of my car and i have no use for this lux care thing..


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