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sho220 01-08-2013 04:28 PM

Hypothetical Speeding Ticket Scenario
 
Hypothetically...wink wink...if someone got a speeding ticket and the cop wrote the tag number down wrong and the last name wrong on the summons, would it be something worth trying to argue in front of a traffic judge? My initial instinct is to pay up because, hypothetically, the person was guilty, but if the cop, hypothetically, got those two items wrong, did he get the speed wrong on his radar as well? Hypothetically speaking, of course...

FR-S Matt 01-08-2013 04:31 PM

Hypothetically, you could take that to a judge and probably get it dismissed.

Khánh 01-08-2013 04:33 PM

hypothetically, you coulda post this on off-topic.. all of these sections are hypothetically useless..

sho220 01-08-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Khánh (Post 651960)
hypothetically, you coulda post this on off-topic.. all of these sections are hypothetically useless..

Well...it hypothetically happened in an FR-S, and it was a general question, hence the "General Forum"...doesn't matter anyway as the ticket has just, hypothetically, been paid. I guess I just had a question on whether some technicality like that can actually get you out of tickets...in the end, 150 bucks wasn't worth my time...hypothetically...

Aetyrno 01-08-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 651951)
tag number down wrong and the last name wrong on the summons

Hypothetically, you need both of those to be correct as well as the correct statute/law number in order for it to stick. Depending on the jurisdiction your hypothetical friend may have to plead not guilty and take it to trial though. My town is like that, the judges can't dismiss without a not guilty plea and a trial. :/

HATED1 01-08-2013 05:06 PM

or you can hypothetically get one of the "speed lawyers" that deal in that situation so that you don't have to worry about your insurance rates and just pay the flat rate to keep your record clean.

Carbon420 01-08-2013 06:46 PM

If the last ne is spelled wrong then the ticket is not for you and you are therefor not responsible for paying it. At the same time if he wrote the car I'd wrong in anyway then the same applies to the fact that its not your car. Beyond that if both are on one ticket then it should be thrown out. An plus its always worth trying to fight it 90% of the time they don't show up in court to defend the ticket and you can have it thrown out for simple no show on his part. You have the right to challenge your accuser if he's not there the ticket is no good. This is in all cases. Well at least in Canada.


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Carbon420 01-08-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HATED1 (Post 652039)
or you can hypothetically get one of the "speed lawyers" that deal in that situation so that you don't have to worry about your insurance rates and just pay the flat rate to keep your record clean.

That's the biggest pain in the ass ever. I come from a province with public insurance so your driving record has nothing to do with your insurance rate at all. This private insurance stuff is bull.


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hunter3232792 01-08-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 652004)
Well...it hypothetically happened in an FR-S, and it was a general question, hence the "General Forum"...doesn't matter anyway as the ticket has just, hypothetically, been paid. I guess I just had a question on whether some technicality like that can actually get you out of tickets...in the end, 150 bucks wasn't worth my time...hypothetically...

hypothetically i wish i was you i hypothetically got a 400 dollar ticket

DeeezNuuuts83 01-08-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 651951)
Hypothetically...wink wink...if someone got a speeding ticket and the cop wrote the tag number down wrong and the last name wrong on the summons, would it be something worth trying to argue in front of a traffic judge? My initial instinct is to pay up because, hypothetically, the person was guilty, but if the cop, hypothetically, got those two items wrong, did he get the speed wrong on his radar as well? Hypothetically speaking, of course...

It's worth a shot, especially if they incorrectly documented two identifying factors in your case, so it questions whether or not he was on his A-game at the time of issuing the citation. Back when I was in college, a friend of mine got a ticket thrown out because the cop wrote down the wrong car color (white instead of black).

Just make sure the judge doesn't ask if you were speeding regardless of the errors made, haha. But you'd probably still get it dismissed anyway. Even the written tests for most law enforcement agencies today try to weed out people who aren't good with accurately documenting data.

MTCRX 01-08-2013 09:30 PM

Hypothetically if you did the crime you should man up to it and pay the fine. Getting off on a technicality doesn't make it right.

Storm_Trooper 01-09-2013 07:28 PM

As long as the officer testifies that it was in fact you who he witnessed committing the offense, regardless of an error for whatever reason he may have made it, you're going to be guilty.

So...wear one of those mustache and nose eyeglasses masks.

sho220 01-19-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MTCRX (Post 652616)
Hypothetically if you did the crime you should man up to it and pay the fine. Getting off on a technicality doesn't make it right.

Yupper...see post #4. I'm pretty sure I could have gotten it thrown out, or at least the fine drastically reduced. But for some reason, I would feel like a jackass standing in front of a judge trying to get out of something that I was completely guilty of...hypothetically, of course...

JDMenrique 01-19-2013 10:07 AM

I think "hypothetically" Judge Judy would laugh at you, lead you on a terrifying journey questioning your intelligence and then, only then... make you pay the ticket.


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