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Liquidsnake 01-07-2013 05:49 PM

Long start up. Not weather related.
 
Strange, I drove to work parked the car. 4 hours later I went back to the car to leave for lunch, and I had a looooooong start up, I had to try 3 times, and finally it started.

Automatic.

Happened once before like 3 months ago. Anyone else experience this?
What do I do?

Gixxersixxerman 01-07-2013 05:57 PM

Mines done it a few times.. And at different times to.. Once in the morning.. Once after it sat for a couple hours.. The latest was a couple days ago, when I ran in to pick up a friend and about 10 mins later jump in and tried to start and it didn't want to.. It started the second time..

I've had the same issues

Shagaliscious 01-07-2013 06:01 PM

This happened to me for the first time last Friday. I was leaving work, but I went to lunch that day. So the car had been sitting for maybe 3 hours. It took me 3 tries to get it started.

Liquidsnake 01-07-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman (Post 649902)
Mines done it a few times.. And at different times to.. Once in the morning.. Once after it sat for a couple hours.. The latest was a couple days ago, when I ran in to pick up a friend and about 10 mins later jump in and tried to start and it didn't want to.. It started the second time..

I've had the same issues

Should I just mention it to the service guys next time I take it in? Can it wait?
Not due for service for another 4 thousand miles.

marky 01-07-2013 06:08 PM

Maybe ignition coil faulty/fuel pump/filter or defect not sure:iono:

Could of flooded it for a sec..

Are you waiting for like 2/3 seconds letting the fuel pump to reach the engine before cranking the engine?

I had this similar issues on my DC2 replace the ignition coil and problem went away...

jlu 01-07-2013 06:09 PM

It's happened to me before two or three times before (might have been the cold weather), but not in a while.

Someone told me to pump the gas while turning the key, not sure if that's valid advice or not.

Liquidsnake 01-07-2013 06:13 PM

Just weird man. I don't want to get stuck in Torrance after the sun goes down. ;)

m0nty 01-07-2013 06:16 PM

Funny that a bunch of Australian Clio RS200 owners are reporting the same issue. We all had the issue arise in the last week. Only happens with factory tuned cars and could be heat related. Most of Australia is in heat wave at the moment.

strat61caster 01-07-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 649927)
Are you waiting for like 2/3 seconds letting the fuel pump to reach the engine before cranking the engine?

I feel like 95% of these threads can be solved with this advice. The fuel pump needs to pressurize the system before the car will start.

Liquidsnake 01-07-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 649963)
I feel like 95% of these threads can be solved with this advice. The fuel pump needs to pressurize the system before the car will start.


So just switch the key to on for a few seconds before starting?

titan_rw 01-07-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlu (Post 649929)
Someone told me to pump the gas while turning the key, not sure if that's valid advice or not.

As far an I'm aware, this was valid advice when cars were carbureted. Pumping the gas pedal before starting / while cranking would manually pump gas into the carb(s).

Fuel injected cars don't need this. The ECM handles all the fuel stuff these days.

That being said, waiting a second or 2 after turning key to on, but before cranking might allow the fuel pumps time to create fuel pressure so that the fuel injectors have something to inject. If doing this doesn't help, I'd say there's another problem, and would be talking to the dealer.

86'd 01-07-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 649963)
I feel like 95% of these threads can be solved with this advice. The fuel pump needs to pressurize the system before the car will start.

Yeah, in most cars you can hear the fuel pump "prime" in the 2nd key position.

Whenever my car wouldn't start, it would be because of two things:

1. Low Fuel
2. Turning the key too fast

Or a combination of these two things.

If it's not either of these things, then go ahead and take it in.

Carbon420 01-07-2013 07:12 PM

I've got the same thing a couple times. I though it was cause it was cold. We were at like -20 so it wasn't super cold and I didn't think I should be having those problems. But them it did it a couple days ago when it was like plus5 out so I don't think it was cold. I didn't have to try again it just took about 3-5 seconds befor it turned over.


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Bristecom 01-07-2013 07:20 PM

Is it because of newer high pressure fuel pumps? I never had this problem with older cars.


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