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DuMa 12-01-2011 04:23 PM

Gas Mileage
 
i have seen 30mpg figures. and i expect this car to at least get 26-27MPG with DI, max 2800lb curb weight, and economical final gear ratio for 6SPD.

but this UK review says it expects it to get ABOVE 40MPG. wow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...86-review.html

Giccin 12-01-2011 04:25 PM

Even better. Lol 40mpg sounds prettttttttty awesome to me! lol

KAuss 12-01-2011 04:25 PM

Must be a lot of downhill driving both ways in the UK lol

Sparkplug 12-01-2011 04:29 PM

Imperial gallons are also larger than US gallons, with 1.2 US = 1.0 Imp.

Simply put, you can go 20 percent further on an Imperial gallon.

I'll be happy if it's better tan my RX-8!

32-33 highway does sound pretty accurate to me.

KAuss 12-01-2011 04:30 PM

If that is the case their # should be even lower.

n/m brain fart

Jezza_hr 12-01-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KAuss (Post 86785)
Must be a lot of downhill driving both ways in the UK lol

Nope, it's because our roads are made of a special tarmac that permits so much extra traction that it can vastly improve fuel consumption :-P

I'm guessing these are just estimates based on how the car is being driven, using the high gears on a motorway as opposed to country lanes etc.

m.box.design 12-01-2011 04:42 PM

I live 5 miles from work, I'll have to be doing some mad WOT if I want to show off the car at a gas station every now and then.

MannyO 12-01-2011 05:00 PM

I will be hypermiling this car. Not gonna use any crazy advanced techniques either. If it will be rated at 30mpg, then expect me to post up low to maybe mid 50's.

I have a Prius :scared0016: for daily commuting and easily get 60+mpg combined on average (84mpg was my record this past summer) and its only rated for 46mpg.

Sparkplug 12-01-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyO (Post 86872)
I will be hypermiling this car. Not gonna use any crazy advanced techniques either. If it will be rated at 30mpg, then expect me to post up low to maybe mid 50's.

I have a Prius :scared0016: for daily commuting and easily get 60+mpg combined on average (84mpg was my record this past summer) and its only rated for 46mpg.

Is hypermiling even worth it, including all the safety concerns?

KAuss 12-01-2011 05:08 PM

Hypermiling isn't for this car... It's like people that buy a Vette try to squeeze 50mpg out of them (they do too)... Just not the idea behind the car you know...

This is suppose to be a car where you're encouraged to give it some throttle no matter what you're doing with it... The brakes are good too so they expect you to be coming in to a stop pretty hot...

This will be a DD for most people, but a DD where you're go karting around instead of shopping carting...

MannyO 12-01-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkplug (Post 86885)
Is hypermiling even worth it, including all the safety concerns?

As far as saving money, not really. I do it for a few reasons. It keeps the drive interesting and somewhat entertaining and it also helps keep me concentrated on my surroundings so it's actually safer if you do it right...

No drafting semis and turning the ignition off while gliding in neutral or doing 50mph in the slow lane with your hazards on. I'm pretty sure those qualify as reckless driving at that point.

Scarebus 12-01-2011 06:15 PM

Will the 86/FR-S/BRZ have real-time fuel consumption info display on the dash? For example, as one of the selections that you can toggle through on the trip computer, if a trip computer is even available?

Syldrin 12-01-2011 06:24 PM

^ yea they showed MPG on the trip ODO screen on one of the gabillion videos

Allch Chcar 12-01-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyO (Post 86872)
I will be hypermiling this car. Not gonna use any crazy advanced techniques either. If it will be rated at 30mpg, then expect me to post up low to maybe mid 50's.

I have a Prius :scared0016: for daily commuting and easily get 60+mpg combined on average (84mpg was my record this past summer) and its only rated for 46mpg.

Me too, :thumbsup: I probably will be mostly doing the most basic "nut behind the wheel" mod more than anything. Aerotweaks, weight reductions, etc are all in my future.

I will be using E85 ASAP so my MPG will probably look average but I count fuel economy in cents per mile and energy per mile. I might break even without trying but it's hard to guess real world MPG without driving.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkplug (Post 86885)
Is hypermiling even worth it, including all the safety concerns?

Hypermiling involves paying attention to your surroundings and conditions. It's much safer than just using cruise control or tailgating.

Given some practice, it can make a big difference. Just paying attention to your MPG with a gauge makes a big difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAuss (Post 86891)
Hypermiling isn't for this car... It's like people that buy a Vette try to squeeze 50mpg out of them (they do too)... Just not the idea behind the car you know...

This is suppose to be a car where you're encouraged to give it some throttle no matter what you're doing with it... The brakes are good too so they expect you to be coming in to a stop pretty hot...

This will be a DD for most people, but a DD where you're go karting around instead of shopping carting...

There is no certain car for hypermiling. The Prius is a popular icon for hypermiling because it does even better with hypermiling. But plenty of people hypermile trucks or other guzzlers because that is what they have to drive. It's vastly cheaper to improve your driving style than buy a newer car/truck. Hypermiling isn't just about reducing pollution or helping the environment it is also about saving money and/or wasting less Petroleum.

The driving you describe isn't driving spirited but driving like an idiot or a jerk. Hypermiling can be fun too, especially when you focus on maintaing momentum, using as little throttle as necessary, and not touching the brakes. Within reason, of course. It's not always about speed, it's more about smoothness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyO (Post 86901)
As far as saving money, not really. I do it for a few reasons. It keeps the drive interesting and somewhat entertaining and it also helps keep me concentrated on my surroundings so it's actually safer if you do it right...

No drafting semis and turning the ignition off while gliding in neutral or doing 50mph in the slow lane with your hazards on. I'm pretty sure those qualify as reckless driving at that point.

Drafting/Tailgating is reckless and foolish. Pulse and glide depends on the driver, the savings are significant but it's often more work than most people are willing to do.

There is a technique for speed limit or slower driving called ridge riding, you ride the outside ridge to encourage people to pass instead of getting stuck behind you. That is not an option on a two lane roads but it works for highways and 4 lane roads. Being a courteous, attentative driver while hypermiling is a necessity.

You can easily guess how much this matters if you have heard any complaints about hypermilers.


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