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Moto-P 01-06-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nix (Post 647047)
ABS is still active in this mode. What it does is disable VSC, TC, Auto LSD. I agree with you though people should be careful!!

Wow really? I wonder how Mike got his FRS to lock up the tires on the track this way... More mysteries.. ack!

nix 01-06-2013 12:33 AM

Yeah I am a grip driver but still had problems with it kicking in. Most people here wouldn't need this mode but for those who really push their cars it's great.

I have thought about installing the auto factory cut switch since I have the matching interior panel space but because I have a push start button I think I have to break the starter barrel open to splice into it. Bit of a job for a rainy day ..

ayau 01-06-2013 12:34 AM

I'm getting two sides of this debate.

1) The pedal dance will disable ABS.

2) The pedal dance will disable auto LSD.

Which one is it?

Can someone clearly explain how this pedal dance is different than holding down the traction button down for 5 seconds?

CSG Mike 01-06-2013 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto-P (Post 647072)
Wow really? I wonder how Mike got his FRS to lock up the tires on the track this way... More mysteries.. ack!

Brake bias; electronic brake distribution freaked out and put all the braking force to the rear. I was running a large differential between the front and rear in terms of both compound and piston surface area.

CSG Mike 01-06-2013 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 647106)
I'm getting two sides of this debate.

1) The pedal dance will disable ABS.

2) The pedal dance will disable auto LSD.

Which one is it?

Can someone clearly explain how this pedal dance is different than holding down the traction button down for 5 seconds?

My conclusion is that it disables electronic brake distribution and the "panic stop" mode. You can stab at the pedal, and it won't "add pressure".

Take it for what you will; that's just what I discovered in my testing, and as always, YMMV.

ayau 01-06-2013 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 647144)
My conclusion is that it disables electronic brake distribution and the "panic stop" mode. You can stab at the pedal, and it won't "add pressure".

Take it for what you will; that's just what I discovered in my testing, and as always, YMMV.

So does it disable every single electronic aid for this car? It seems like we need to get the real answer from Toyota/Subaru.

CSG Mike 01-06-2013 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 647147)
So does it disable every single electronic aid for this car? It seems like we need to get the real answer from Toyota/Subaru.

Given that it's officially a "diagnostic mode", I think so. The does exactly what I ask it to do in this mode, whether its trail braking, sliding, drifting, or gripping.

gmookher 01-06-2013 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 647142)
Brake bias; electronic brake distribution freaked out and put all the braking force to the rear. I was running a large differential between the front and rear in terms of both compound and piston surface area.

curious, what pad combo?
must go play with the pedal dance tomorrow!
gem

Acree 01-06-2013 03:52 AM

Is anyone interested in a module to do this for them?

-Acree

CSG David 01-06-2013 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 647297)
curious, what pad combo?
must go play with the pedal dance tomorrow!
gem

XP10/XP8 on the 225 RS3 fronts and 215 Z1SS rear tires.

The CSG BRZ currently runs XP12 all around and 225 RS3s all around.

CSG Mike 01-06-2013 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 647329)
XP10/XP8 on the 225 RS3 fronts and 215 Z1SS rear tires.

The CSG BRZ currently runs XP12 all around and 225 RS3s all around.

I may have tried some other combos... :D

DarkSunrise 01-06-2013 09:46 AM

CSG Crew, really appreciate the time and effort you guys are putting into the development of this car (and your willingness to share your results).

twincamRob 01-06-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 640389)
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Doesn't turning off the traction control by holding the button for 5secs do the same thing as this or am I missing something? I noticed no weird brake "interference" when I did that at the track...

feldy 01-06-2013 02:53 PM

I can confirm this works on the AT Trans. Should help launching the AT much more easy.


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