Originally Posted by regandr (Post 2237313)

Please let a former Skip Barber school instructor and 30 year SCCA racer (including a regional championship) make a few suggestions :
1. do absolutely nothing to your car before your first NASA or SCCA track day. that's right, nothing.
2. the reason for this advice is you need to experience what your car and YOU can do, right out of the box, before you make any changes
These are fabulous track cars - STOCK !!
Let me give you a real-world example:
I have run 44 track days in my STOCK BRZ. the ONLY mod. to this car is a set of BFG G-Force Rival tires. I regularly run at Miller M.S. Park in SLC with guys who have spent $10000 + on their cars for superchargers, coil-overs, wings, aero skirts, wheels, yadda, yadda. They are all SLOWER than, or only very slightly (in the dry) faster than my STOCK car !! and I am old enough to be all of their fathers !
All of them should have spent their hard earned $$ on a pro drivers school : Skip Barber, Bondurant, etc. and learned how to drive first. Any a__hole can hammer the throttle on the straight. You become smooth, fast and a much better driver in the corners.

Originally Posted by Special_K (Post 2237575)

I would say that's the exact definition of "doing whatever you do". Tire guys use 32nds... ergo. keep doing whatever you do. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ (Post 2237643)

Took your original comment a different way. :D

Originally Posted by zdr93523 (Post 2237603)

@CSG Mike What's the typical time separation between the NA Stock class and FI Super Mod cars in 86 Cup? 8 seconds is about the average from what I can surmise. So, we're not exactly throttle hammering a___holes (like GTR & 911 Turbo drivers) like it has been insinuated.

Originally Posted by stockysnail (Post 2237506)

He must not be braking hard enough since my first couple times out I used the stock pads and had lots of fade as they got too hot. ;)

On a side note Mike I have AX6 pads for the rear, but my fronts are shot along with my rotors (new stock rotors already installed). I'd rather just buy new front pads for track days for now until I save up enough for the AP racing endurance kit. I'm assuming XP10 is what you'd recommend for the front on RE-11a tires with 250whp? My rear AX6 pads have lots of life left.

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2237751)

Well, here's the dilemma. A more aggressive front pad means the front will be doing even MORE work, which means the rear pad will last even longer, because it's barely being used. Meanwhile, the front pad doing more work will soon be doing all the work (well like 95% of it) if you do a XP10/AX6 stagger, which results in faster wearing front pads.

How long did your front AX6 last you? I wouldn't recommend going more than a XP8/AX6 stagger, because the front bias will be massive if you go more than that.

Originally Posted by stockysnail (Post 2237916)

I think the AX6 lasted 6 track days. The last track day was a double as I was sharing my car so it had back to back sessions. At the end of the day the front pads were very worn near the top and much less worn at the bottom. The top must have been getting really hot. The front rotors had spider web-ish looking marks all over them too. The last session the brakes felt like they were pulsing on their own, which I figured was the rotors were warped because of the heat. I'm sure the totally uneven pad wear didn't help as well. I guess that's what I get for doing double track duty, which is probably worse that 2 separate track days as the car has more time to cool off.

Originally Posted by redlined600 (Post 2245442)

Is the brake bleeding procedure for the twins standard furthest to closest or something weird?

Originally Posted by regandr (Post 2238483)

Sorry guys from Miller. I had no intention of offending you. I like you guys and did not mean to imply any of you guys were posteriors. on the contrary.
I think you missed my point. Since lap times are very important to you (that's why you run in TT) and I couldnt care less about lap times (been there and done that), I suggest that everybody who wants to go faster needs a serious school. Not a NASA school, not an SCCA school.
Anybody who wants faster times needs to learn how to drive the corners fast. That's what they teach you. Anybody can hammer it on the straights.
I understand that you want to tinker with the cars. However, Andy(?) has made so many changes that he has messed up an otherwise great car.
A good school will also teach you how to analyse what a car is doing in order to set it up.