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Mikes86 12-28-2012 12:04 PM

well this may suck.
 
Well after only a few months of having my fr-s (half of which I was in basic) just found out yesterday looks like theres a good possibility im going to be stationed in japan... im super stoked on that but problem is im leasing the fr-s and the lease will not allow me to take it with me... so most likely ill have to return the vehicle or sell it. I know this is a super cool story bros but I just wanted to rant a little of my problems away!

StOpNG0x 12-28-2012 12:14 PM

Firstly, thanks for your service. Secondly, doesn't the dealership offer you some sort of incentive/break because you are being sent out of country if you have to return or sell the car?

While you're there, take a stop by the plant in Ota, Gunma, Japan and tell them to fix the issues most of us are having :p

wbradley 12-28-2012 12:17 PM

Leasebusters

Poogles 12-28-2012 01:17 PM

No offense dude, but leasing or buying a car before you get pcs orders is a pretty risky move. I have friends who bought cars while in MOS school and then came to Okinawa and had to leave their cars in storage for the 2+ years they've been there. Kind of a waste if you ask me.

gily25 12-28-2012 04:06 PM

No military transport available for your vehicle? Or are you concerned about the lease part? Cause if it's the lease part I would go to the dealer or a bank and covert to a loan.

Red5 12-28-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Poogles (Post 631550)
No offense dude, but leasing or buying a car before you get pcs orders is a pretty risky move. I have friends who bought cars while in MOS school and then came to Okinawa and had to leave their cars in storage for the 2+ years they've been there. Kind of a waste if you ask me.

One, you're assuming he bought the car knowing he was getting orders. Two, OP, that is a shitty deal, but on the bright side; you'll be able to drive the GT86 while you're over there and you might be able to bring one back. Three, taking your car over there would be very expensive, there's a lot of conversion stuff you have to do to make it road legal over there.


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CaptainSlow 12-28-2012 04:27 PM

Nothing to say other than "thank you for your service"! Hope it all works out for you

Starscream15 12-28-2012 04:36 PM

First thing you do when you get off the plane is go find yourself a Skyline R34 and drive it like you stole it until they send you home.

Carbon420 12-28-2012 04:47 PM

Sell and buy yourself a gt-86 when your there and ship it back when u come then have a totally unique car in the states. Since mines in Canada. Lol


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kmbkk 12-28-2012 05:03 PM

You can get out of the lease due to your military orders, it's called a military clause. Pretty much all leases, and rentals (houses/apartments, etc...) have this, or should. Also, the reason he can't take it to Japan is because Japan is very strict on what vehicles military members can bring over. It used to be no car newer than 1976. It could be a little newer than that now, but not much.

briang0901 12-28-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikes86 (Post 631397)
Well after only a few months of having my fr-s (half of which I was in basic) just found out yesterday looks like theres a good possibility im going to be stationed in japan... im super stoked on that but problem is im leasing the fr-s and the lease will not allow me to take it with me... so most likely ill have to return the vehicle or sell it. I know this is a super cool story bros but I just wanted to rant a little of my problems away!

hey bro, myself and @akuhei are getting stationed back in japan and we are both going to try and ship our cars over, what you should do is if you want to keep the car, get a loan through usaa and they will let you ship to any country(keep in mind japan is rhd country meaning you need the gt86 headlights and will have to pay inspection fees). what branch and where are you getting stationed?

_F-R-S_ 12-28-2012 05:26 PM

Screw leasing you end up paying more

Mikes86 12-28-2012 05:36 PM

Thanks for info guys, honestly I didnt think it was going to be that big of a deal getting a car over seas, but u live and learn right. Talked to a dealership today but they didnt have much info for me other than call toyota when I actualy get my paper orders. I think we will be able to either return it or sell it problem is its our only car so we dont want to get rid of it to soon.

We are very excited though even if I cant take the car there im hoping to buy something super sick over there!

Im air force and going to misawa

DelayedBRZ 12-28-2012 05:46 PM

Hey Bub, enjoy Misawa. I have several buddies who have been there and loved it. Now as far as dissolving the lease. Kmbkk is right abut a "military clause", it is the Soldier, Sailor's Relief Act of 1974. Due to service beyond our control as service members it can cause "accidental debt". Due to the orders and a smart 1st Shirt most leases can be dissolved as long as the car wasn't abused beyond mechanical use. So get with your section leader, flight chief, and Shirt to see if they can assist. Have fun and enjoy!

Mikes86 12-28-2012 06:09 PM

I new about the soldier, sailor act but I wasnt sure if It would help in my case here. I really appreciate all the helpful posts.

Kilzod 12-28-2012 06:41 PM

Thank you for your service and good luck with returning the lease. I agree with the above post - get a real GT86 and ship it back with you when you come home safely. :)

Re_Invention 12-28-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by _F-R-S_ (Post 632011)
Screw leasing you end up paying more

False. Depending on the lease and buyout agreement, it can cost exactly the same as getting a great deal with the flexibility of choosing to buy outright at the end of the lease or walking away and having lost just as much as you would have on depreciation. On the other hand, you can get screwed on a lease exactly as you can purchasing a car.

Please educate yourself before making a fool of yourself! :thumbsup:

briang0901 12-28-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikes86 (Post 632035)
Thanks for info guys, honestly I didnt think it was going to be that big of a deal getting a car over seas, but u live and learn right. Talked to a dealership today but they didnt have much info for me other than call toyota when I actualy get my paper orders. I think we will be able to either return it or sell it problem is its our only car so we dont want to get rid of it to soon.

We are very excited though even if I cant take the car there im hoping to buy something super sick over there!

Im air force and going to misawa

i got a buddy in misawa right now...doesnt like it much, although he compares it to yokosuka where we were both previously stationed at. one thing i can say is your going to make a ridiculous amount of money...so much that you could save up and come back 2 years later and buy an frs/brz outright and still have money to do whatever while your there. not sure if you like snowboarding either but there is plenty of resorts in driving distance.

btw word on the street is that gt86's are a 6mth backorder...take the frs and sell over there...

blur 12-28-2012 07:11 PM

I'm in the air force(air national guard) and I've heard you can terminate your lease if you are being deployed...

BTW I'm leaving to basic jan 2nd! I'm hoping to deploy to japan too, the Air Force seems to send a lot of people down there.

_F-R-S_ 12-28-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Re_Invention (Post 632172)
False. Depending on the lease and buyout agreement, it can cost exactly the same as getting a great deal with the flexibility of choosing to buy outright at the end of the lease or walking away and having lost just as much as you would have on depreciation. On the other hand, you can get screwed on a lease exactly as you can purchasing a car.

Please educate yourself before making a fool of yourself! :thumbsup:

Troll

briang0901 12-28-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 632212)
I'm in the air force(air national guard) and I've heard you can terminate your lease if you are being deployed...

BTW I'm leaving to basic jan 2nd! I'm hoping to deploy to japan too, the Air Force seems to send a lot of people down there.

Misawa, Kadena, Atsugi....AF bases, do it if you can, you wont regret it! did 3 years out there, trying to go back again!

shishand 12-28-2012 07:41 PM

thank you for your services :)

Mikes86 12-28-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by briang0901 (Post 632206)
i got a buddy in misawa right now...doesnt like it much, although he compares it to yokosuka where we were both previously stationed at. one thing i can say is your going to make a ridiculous amount of money...so much that you could save up and come back 2 years later and buy an frs/brz outright and still have money to do whatever while your there. not sure if you like snowboarding either but there is plenty of resorts in driving distance.

btw word on the street is that gt86's are a 6mth backorder...take the frs and sell over there...

How come he doesnt like it? What rank is he? Ive never snow boarded before but ive always wanted to try is he stationed alone or is he married, still making large amounts of money? We cant take the frs the lease wont allow it.

Oh and whats your guys' jobs?

Mikes86 12-28-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 632212)
I'm in the air force(air national guard) and I've heard you can terminate your lease if you are being deployed...

BTW I'm leaving to basic jan 2nd! I'm hoping to deploy to japan too, the Air Force seems to send a lot of people down there.

Good luck! Basic was such a blast!

blur 12-29-2012 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikes86 (Post 632673)
Good luck! Basic was such a blast!

Thanks! I look forward to it. From what I heard marching is the worst part lol

dorifuto 12-29-2012 12:57 AM

3 years at misawa. 14th fighter squadron. There's lots of good times to be had there.

Mikes86 12-29-2012 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 632782)
Thanks! I look forward to it. From what I heard marching is the worst part lol

No way drill was way fun, the worst part in my opinion was just being away from home and my wife but she sent me a letter everyday that helped a lot ... if u havent done so yet start getting used to saying... "sir/ma'am trainee (insert last name here) reports as ordered" oh and even if your not religious id suggest hitting up church on sundays it makes the day go by a bit easier. U could even try out different religions each week. Feel free to pm me if u have any questions.

root 12-29-2012 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikes86 (Post 632664)
How come he doesnt like it? What rank is he? Ive never snow boarded before but ive always wanted to try is he stationed alone or is he married, still making large amounts of money? We cant take the frs the lease wont allow it.

Oh and whats your guys' jobs?

I love snowboarding! I Haven't ridden in the main island though, always go to Hokkaido. Planning to go in Feb! They get some prime powder, good stuff!

blur 12-29-2012 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikes86 (Post 632880)
No way drill was way fun, the worst part in my opinion was just being away from home and my wife but she sent me a letter everyday that helped a lot ... if u havent done so yet start getting used to saying... "sir/ma'am trainee (insert last name here) reports as ordered" oh and even if your not religious id suggest hitting up church on sundays it makes the day go by a bit easier. U could even try out different religions each week. Feel free to pm me if u have any questions.

Lol yea I know the reporting statement, and EVERYONE says that about church. I definitely plan on attending. I'm kinda nervous about eating lunch in 3 minutes flat though, I'm a slow eater.

Red5 12-29-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by blur (Post 632949)
Lol yea I know the reporting statement, and EVERYONE says that about church. I definitely plan on attending. I'm kinda nervous about eating lunch in 3 minutes flat though, I'm a slow eater.

Apparently meals aren't as bad as they used to be when I went through (basic in 07), but you get real good at eating faster, and eating high calorie foods so you don't get too hungry during the day. Having spent the last 5 and a half years in, it'd be so hard for me to go through basic again and not laugh at all the BS they feed you about how the "real" AF is.


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Wolfking 12-29-2012 08:34 AM

Japan? Ditch our pretend GT86. Now you can get a real one. I spent 9yrs there! You won't want to come back! What part? Mainland or Okinawa? Enjoy, brother enjoy!

~Wolfking
USMC/ARMY

briang0901 12-29-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikes86 (Post 632664)
How come he doesnt like it? What rank is he? Ive never snow boarded before but ive always wanted to try is he stationed alone or is he married, still making large amounts of money? We cant take the frs the lease wont allow it.

Oh and whats your guys' jobs?

He is navy, E5, single, making roughly 3-4k mth, and the snowbarding there is excellent...best ive ever seen so id suggest trying it out!

Since I was station in Yokosuka I cant comment much on Misawa, I only know what my friend tells me but im sure he is comparing it Yokosuka. He just says that there isnt much to do up there and would prefer to be near tokyo and yokohama. seeing how you are married i think it will be just fine for you.

Mikes86 12-29-2012 02:00 PM

Ah yes Im sure it would be different leaving a place close to a large city after being used to that for a few years.

Eating at basic isnt so bad, i hear its a lot different than it used to be...it may not seem like it but they actually give u like 10- 15 minutes for lunch and dinner... my mti would say "you give me breakfast and ill give u lunch and diner" meaning at breakfast lick a biscuit and get out but he gave u extra time for your other meals.
try not to become a chow runner though as they spend a lot of time infront of the snake pit, and the mti's will screw with u a bit there. I was laundry crew cause im married and it was fun lots of time to chill In the laundry room and study for the eoc test didnt get a lot of drill practice though as when my flight was out doing that we were normally doing laundry.

2manysubies 12-29-2012 03:35 PM

I can say Misawa is like living in Maine, WAAAYYY to much snow, they have snow removal equipment that could eat a FR-s and not notice.(well maybe) Okinawa, busy place, 4 bases, AF, USMC, USA and a USN contigent. It may be an "Island" but it's a pretty big one, great PX/Commissary. Oh, Check out all the "Junkyards" there, the Japanese fail almost every car at the 3 year point,(Military exempt) most go to those bone yards= great parts cheap, establish a contact to mail parts to in the states i.e.JDM stuff, You'll make a mint and you can get it sent stateside Via Our Uncle. Oh and Thanks for your service, "You Have the Watch"

R/Mac


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