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pr086 12-21-2012 10:49 AM

top off oil?
 
with my first oil change being scheduled for like 7k miles and this being a new engine, i'm sure it will need to have the oil topped off before going in for a change.

what do you recomend i pick up for topping it off? what is in there from the factory? does it have to be the same oil?

strat61caster 12-21-2012 11:40 AM

Why would you top it off before it gets changed? It'll get flushed away with the rest of the old oil.

If you're asking if you should check your oil level once a month or every couple thousand miles like most people should be doing, then yes check it. You may be able to get OEM oil through your dealer.

I haven't heard anyone mention burning oil but then again that is a quirk of boxers so that may be the case down the road. I wouldn't worry about it other than paying attention to your car, after the first oil change you should know what's in there just in case.

Opposed 12-21-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 621053)
Why would you top it off before it gets changed? It'll get flushed away with the rest of the old oil.

If you're asking if you should check your oil level once a month or every couple thousand miles like most people should be doing, then yes check it. You may be able to get OEM oil through your dealer.

I haven't heard anyone mention burning oil but then again that is a quirk of boxers so that may be the case down the road. I wouldn't worry about it other than paying attention to your car, after the first oil change you should know what's in there just in case.

I have heard different stories on this subject, but I did burn some oil on break-in. I checked it at around 4k miles, and I burned about 1/4 of a quart, maybe even a little more. I was pretty hard on it. Havent' noticed any burning since changing my oil as of late.

gmookher 12-21-2012 11:47 AM

change oil at 1500 after some hard driving

strat61caster 12-21-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Opposed (Post 621059)
and I burned about 1/4 of a quart,

Is it necessary to top off a quarter of a quart? Even if it's a full quart by the time the oil change is supposed to occur that would seem fine to me.

pr086 12-21-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 621053)
Why would you top it off before it gets changed? It'll get flushed away with the rest of the old oil.

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because a new engine is likely to bur oil, especially during break in. i don't want to be low on oil, hence topping it off if it needs any before i bring it in to be changed.

so does anyone know what is in there from the factory and what would be a good choice to keep on hand for top offs?

Opposed 12-21-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 621073)
Is it necessary to top off a quarter of a quart? Even if it's a full quart by the time the oil change is supposed to occur that would seem fine to me.

I see what your saying. But I didn't change for another 1k miles after that. If its a 1/4 low as you are entering the dealership, then I wouldn't worry about it.

bluesubie 12-21-2012 07:11 PM

The oil from the factory is an Idemitsu oil blended for Subaru. You can get a similar oil from a Subaru dealer, but you can top it off with any API SN/ILSAC GF5 0W-20 synthetic oil.

-Dennis

FRSjeff 12-21-2012 07:23 PM

See my post:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24174

AZP Installs 12-28-2012 06:13 PM

Our suggestion would be to drive about 1500 miles and then have the oil changed at an independent shop with some quality Synthetic 0w20 oil such as Amsoil or Motul. As for topping off, if you are putting in a 1/4 of a quart 0w20 Synthetic can be used to top it off.

I would check it every 1K miles as the boxers have a tendency to consume some oil in our experience.

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EBMCS03 12-30-2012 10:03 PM

Is the engine oil in the FR-S synthetic? I've read the manual on page 344 and nowhere does it indicate synthetic... it only says use "toyota genuine motor oil" Toyota definitely makes non synthetic 0W20 cuz that's what is used in the corolla. 0W20 non-synthetic.

AZP Installs 12-30-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EBMCS03 (Post 635515)
Is the engine oil in the FR-S synthetic? I've read the manual on page 344 and nowhere does it indicate synthetic... it only says use "toyota genuine motor oil" Toyota definitely makes non synthetic 0W20 cuz that's what is used in the corolla. 0W20 non-synthetic.

I'm not sure about the FRS, but I believe the BRZ specifies synthetic and with a DI engine, I wouldn't suggest running anything but synthetic in it no matter what the manual specifies.

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EBMCS03 12-30-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 635523)
I'm not sure about the FRS, but I believe the BRZ specifies synthetic and with a DI engine, I wouldn't suggest running anything but synthetic in it no matter what the manual specifies.

I would suspect it should be synthetic if the BRZ specifically says synthetic in their manual and the FR-S comes out of the same shop... but who knows...

Well. if its not synthetic a top off using synthetic would cause more harm than anything. One should not mix synthetic / non-synthetic oil.

And then the other question is the dealers if the car is synthetic and the dealers replace the oil with non-synthetic thats a big no no too...

Im going to search around and see if this topic has come up before... cuz this will concern me during the next oil change at the dealer... most Toyota's are not synthetic and if the techs put in regular oil mixed with synthetic... wow...

AZP Installs 12-30-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EBMCS03 (Post 635541)
I would suspect it should be synthetic if the BRZ specifically says synthetic in their manual and the FR-S comes out of the same shop... but who knows...

Well. if its not synthetic a top off using synthetic would cause more harm than anything. One should not mix synthetic / non-synthetic oil.

And then the other question is the dealers if the car is synthetic and the dealers replace the oil with non-synthetic thats a big no no too...

Im going to search around and see if this topic has come up before... cuz this will concern me during the next oil change at the dealer... most Toyota's are not synthetic and if the techs put in regular oil mixed with synthetic... wow...

Why do you feel mixing synthetic and non-synthetic is going to cause harm? In actuality if you are just topping off, any oil will work fine. In the grand scheme of things a 1/2 quart of non-synthetic mixed in there considering the total amount of oil in a BRZ/FRS engine won't harm it at all.

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