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JDMenrique 12-15-2012 08:08 AM

sub'd

Frostyman 12-15-2012 11:26 AM

HMMM. I don't like how he said they've done only two builds, yet he was saying "guys" plural are getting near 300 from normally aspirated. The wording of the question and subsequent answer leads me to believe the guy is basically bullshitting his numbers. I mean come on, aftermarket exhaust valves having no trouble at all with 11, 12 lbs of boost? I'm pretty sure the stock valves have been handling that already.

djliquidsteele 12-26-2012 04:33 PM

So what all is it going to take to get this thing to rev to 9000 reliably?

eljefe 12-26-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda (Post 608802)
This engine in mostly stock form with lots of head work, cams, and mild boltons, I can see making at least 250 and even 300whp NA with far more crazy work.

I come from Honda's where my personal 1.8 makes 240-250whp with a 100% OEM parts block. People where keep saying I am crazy, however K20 engines can make 250-275 with far less work than I have on my B18.


Nice to see another Honda guy here. While i don't expect any other car to come close to Honda as far as HP/liter, i've already fallen in love with this platform for its handling, and even though its got less whp than my RSX-S had, it definitely feels faster sooner than my NA K series.

My boosted Honda is whole different story... 500HP in a ~2000lb chassis is just stupid fast. terrifying really.

I cant wait for my warranty to be up on my BRZ.

Dustin@Dynosty 12-27-2012 11:34 AM

I know Brian Crower is working on a set of cams currently. And can verify that as of SEMA time, Cosworth's goals were to get some intake and exhaust parts together first for the FA20 platform and cams were not even discussed.

We saw this Ferrea setup in person at SEMA and it looks amazing, we will have a set on the way for our motor build on our shop FR-S.

industrial 01-16-2013 11:45 PM

Bump. Any updates or news on these or any other internals being worked on for NA apps?

benster 02-08-2013 09:58 PM

the 11 12 lbs of boost they were talking about the new gm crate engine, no the FA20.

the trade off to 300na hp will definitely be low end torque that will suffer quite a bit.

as far as how to get 300 hp from the engine, he said they have a new head, it ain't just valves and springs. pretty sure some custom cam was involved to add 100hp but it would still be pretty nice to hear.

and for running 9k rpm you'd have to get a bigger water pulley to slow it down for sure cause i read someone here saying over 7400rpm the water pump starts to cavitate.

rice_classic 02-08-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by benster (Post 722689)
and for running 9k rpm you'd have to get a bigger water pulley to slow it down for sure cause i read someone here saying over 7400rpm the water pump starts to cavitate.

Very good point. Cavitation is a killer.

Or you can clip off the tips of the impellers on the water pump. Common "trick" on production based race cars. Often times it's done for the purpose of cheating (reduce the drag from the water pump) but hey... just sayin'.

wootwoot 02-09-2013 03:59 AM

bump for updates....

Racecomp Engineering 02-09-2013 09:59 AM

As a track day guy and daily driven car, I just want the "valley"to be gone(maybe mild cams) and 230whp( car doesnt weight much). Normally mild cams dont kill bottom end and increase top end in a decent manner with gains in the mid range. Consider with the "valley" gone....this car REALLY has a nice pull to it. Hell most of us just want 200whp with simple bolt ons( not sure how realistic that is but.....).

Maybe a USA company will make some mild cams that arent a tall order to tune and reasonably affordable. Then again when I decided to take the high road and NOT do force induction, I knew then it would cost MORE to get decent power.

Oh and that 230whp I want is on pump(93). Maybe if it still made decent power at 7500 then good.

Thats all THIS suspension guy wants !

Myles

rice_classic 02-09-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 723461)

Oh and that 230whp I want is on pump(93). Maybe if it still made decent power at 7500 then good.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one! :D

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28480

shif7i7down 05-07-2014 08:26 PM

2yrs later....
Whatever happens to this? Was there any valvetrain kit produced for the frs?

350matt 05-08-2014 06:13 PM

not that I've seen

only report of someone revving high (9K) is the chap doing the racing and he says all he's done is up the spring pressure

its on the thread with the blown engine due to lack of oil

Turdinator 05-08-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350matt (Post 1724320)
not that I've seen

only report of someone revving high (9K) is the chap doing the racing and he says all he's done is up the spring pressure

its on the thread with the blown engine due to lack of oil

I am pretty sure he said they had to do headwork to get power through to 9K.


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