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ill roller 12-10-2012 10:18 PM

Risky Devil BRZ - Daily / Drift car
 
Picked this bad boy up two weeks ago after about a 4 month wait... Absolutely love the car, but can't stand driving anything stock. I picked up the wheels the day after I bought the car, and the coilovers about a week later...

Stock:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8503/8...049e3426_o.jpg

Here's a little install/review of the Stance Super Sport coilovers I put on:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23994

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8080/8...2a99f9dd_o.jpg



And here's a few quick shots I took after the coilover install:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8224/8...3e937419_o.jpg
BRZ Preview by AJ Gillett, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8355/8...1dcae97d_o.jpg
BRZ Preview by AJ Gillett, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8487/8...bb68cfb3_o.jpg
BRZ Preview by AJ Gillett, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8340/8...661fdb6b_o.jpg
BRZ Preview by AJ Gillett, on Flickr

I still need to mess with tire sizing, probably lower it a bit more, and get an alignment, but I think it came together pretty awesome for not much money/work... More to come!

mashal 12-10-2012 10:19 PM

What wheels are those ??


I-Tapatalk

ill roller 12-10-2012 10:20 PM

Work XT7

TylerLieberman 12-10-2012 10:44 PM

Risky devil doing it right in Chicago as always. Keep it up!

ATL BRZ 12-10-2012 10:46 PM

I think it's low enough already, maybe too low depending on your daily drives. I think your camber is excessive in the rear and some adjustable rear lower control arms would be a good investment. After lowering mine and dialing out the excess rear camber with LCAs the car became oversteery again like stock with wider wheels and sticky tires.

Timtamtt 12-10-2012 10:53 PM

Wheel specs? And how much are those coilovers? Looking good so far!

ill roller 12-10-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 601386)
Risky devil doing it right in Chicago as always. Keep it up!

:thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 601390)
I think it's low enough already, maybe too low depending on your daily drives. I think your camber is excessive in the rear and some adjustable rear lower control arms would be a good investment. After lowering mine and dialing out the excess rear camber with LCAs the car became oversteery again like stock with wider wheels and sticky tires.

I think it's too high... I don't think the camber is excessive... And I'm taking the 255/35's off the rear in favor of crappy 225/40's.

I may get the rear lower control arms to make the wheels more flush, or I may just space the rears.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Timtamtt (Post 601406)
Wheel specs? And how much are those coilovers? Looking good so far!

18x9.5 +38. Coilovers are about $1300 retail.

Timtamtt 12-10-2012 11:08 PM

Get 40 sidewalls 225 so stretch and moar camber. Like -7 degrees. Hellaflush haha. That'll be somewhat like my setup till I can afford some rpf1s hahaha then I'll go function > form

ebphoto 12-10-2012 11:14 PM

spray tint tails?

..think more stretch and less camber would make the wheels look sickk.

ill roller 12-10-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timtamtt (Post 601432)
Get 40 sidewalls 225 so stretch and moar camber. Like -7 degrees. Hellaflush haha. That'll be somewhat like my setup till I can afford some rpf1s hahaha then I'll go function > form

The front has 225/40/18, I think I'm going to put those in back and get 225/35/18's for the front. I won't be adding any camber... This is not a function>form setup, the car will be driven hard and tracked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebphoto (Post 601449)
spray tint tails?

..think more stretch and less camber would make the wheels look sickk.

Yeah, painted... Still not sure on whether i'll be straightening camber or spacing, but smaller rear tires are happening for sure.

EarlQHan 12-10-2012 11:18 PM

i hate you

ill roller 12-10-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarlQHan (Post 601459)
i hate you

EARL! Love you!

nix 12-10-2012 11:37 PM

Looks good mang. Any rubbing on the front?

ATL BRZ 12-10-2012 11:39 PM

Well I'll be interested to see how it performs on a road course with even less ride height than that, less suspension travel and that much rear camber with stretched tires. This car tends to understeer at the limit when it's much lower and stiffer without R compounds, even then it requires lots of driving skill to really get the most out of it. Check this thread out: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10643

Specifically, regarding camber:
Quote:

"One thing we noticed is that the car has a fairly low roll center and if the car is lowered much at all the lower control arms will point upward with the roll center quickly ending up below ground. This will do two things that are not so great; the car will have a large roll couple and a strong tendency to roll which must be countered with stiff springs and/or swaybar. However the FR-S does have a very low center of gravity due to the low slung boxer engine so perhaps this may still be tolerable.

Next due to the angularity of the lower arm when lowered, the front suspension will lose negative camber under roll which will reduce grip and even lead to understeer in a low car unless a lot of static negative camber is dialed in or roll is greatly reduced with stiff suspension. Big negative camber hurts braking traction and causes the car to be road crown sensitive and tramline on cracks and grooves. Being too stiff hurts mechanical grip. Whiteline if you are reading this, this car really needs your long shank ball joints and tie rod ends to correct the roll center. Make some right away please. Maybe your Subaru kit might fit. The best solution before the aftermarket responds might be to not lower the car more than 1.5” or so."
-Mike Kojima http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...cion-fr-s.aspx

What's a roll center?
Fairly good reference article
http://www.onedirt.com/tech-stories/...r-roll-center/

I like the red tails against the red paint.


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