Will Subaru wait for TMS now that Toyota made an official release?
 

Like the title says. Toyota released their version to the public a few days early, and with what seems like competitive leaks and teasers over the past month, do you guys think Subaru will wait until TMS, or will they drop more info beforehand? I am hopeful that the latter will be the case.

I think Subaru will reveal its car later, because it is better. Most will lose interest in the Toyota. LOL

I'm sure they will spill the beans once the Toyota hype dies down.

I'm betting on TMS they will probably get more attention if they do, plus it's only a couple of days away.

Base BRZ, FR-S and GT86 will all be the same with minor differences, price will be exactly the same.

They will not start competing with each other i think.

Subaru will release an BRZ STI later on with the appropriate pricetag ofc.

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That stuff about pricing and competition is just not true... at all.

It's what i think. It makes no sense to compete on prices between the brands.

They all belong to one big parent company so technically they all profit don't they?together as Fuji heavy Industries?

Toyota is not owned by FHI.

CORRECT
toyota does own a part of FHI

Its only 2 days -_-; I think they can wait.

Subaru hasn't really been known to leak information/photos/etc. in the past. Don't see them starting now.

Zaku, Two guys below are correct. Toyota owns a big part of FHI, which has 6 companies includes Subaru.

Ya, Subaru is outstanding at preventing early sneak peaks. I have no clue how they pull it off.

I mean the '08 Impreza, nobody had a clue what it would look like (not even a whiff of a clue) until Motor Trend leaked a photo like a week before the debut, and thats about the best case scenario there.

Heck, the '08 US spec Forester XT Sports model which had STI wheels and front lip spoiler, nobody had any clue they did that until they started showing up on trucks at dealer lots!

Yup. It's cool though. I'm all about the delayed gratification.

so to me it's like if a BRZ sell Toyota gets something out of it and if FRS sells then Subaru get something out of it, but during a an interview they say that each car will break even and they don't gain profit. So they're not getting anything out of it @__@ Well they'll be competition no matter but, with that rumor of only 1000 units I'm gonna go with which ever will sell it to me at closer to the 25K price point and has the units to provide.

I do got a feeling that most of the forum and club here are trying to purchase the Toyota and not the Subaru.

friendly club competition is totally welcomed.

They get research and development and technology exchange. So... its not really a loss. I think its too easy to write off knowledge and technology as a loss when you just look at a spreadsheet.

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I think now that they've developed this chassis and drivetrain and if its very successful they might branch it out into other models in order to make money.

Sedan version
Hatchback version (shooting brake)
Hybrid version

Sky's the limit now that they have the basic architecture in place...

Yup your right, who know maybe the next wrx which they keep hinting is a coupe might use this platform. Now to wait the couple of days until we can see the BRZ. The day we get all the info and the day we see the two cars side by side it will be glorious for all of us here on the forums.

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when do u think it will be?

My best guess, 1-2 model years out.

If this is true Imma so wait for it. Im a sucker for better suspension, the more aggressive body styling, and hopefully better brakes. lol

Thats what I'm "guessing" too, but never is also a strong possibility at this point...

It will be interesting what subie will do differently with an STI version, but no one really has any idea as of yet as to when/if one will come out.

Might be worth waiting a year to let the kinks get worked out and see what Subaru has planed for the BRZ and new WRX/STI.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2418

Yeah yeah yeah... I'll eat my words :P

We still don't have the details about the car, other than two photos and a hand full of statistics :p

We haven't even seen an interior shot of the BRZ!

ROFL.... If the Subaru isn't at least $5000 more than the Scion in Canada I'll eat my shoes. Subaru Canada pricing is ridiculous.

For the record, SOA blog has stated that these two cars will be marketed differently. The stake that Toyota has in FHI is too small to convey outright ownership - so therefore, the price, the marketing, and the sales of these cars has to be kept confidential and there cannot be any price collusion between the two companies.

Unlike a joint GM/Pontiac badge engineered project where prices were known and calculated for each model to target as many market segments as possible (or to overload a single segment).

Yeah, saw that post by SOA Blog on NASIOC.

Yes, I forgot my sources - sometimes forget which forum I'm on nowadays :)

brewksy/manticus

Manticus!?

Kostamojen.

Scrappydo isn't here too is he? >.>

It's tubular that we have some forum vets from NASIOC coming over here. :popcorn:

That would be so cool.

I might buy a sedan version of this for a family car someday, should I ever need one that is, and if it goes on sale.

If SOA Blog is implying that Subaru intends on charging more for the same car, well, they've lost my business. I suppose I should go drop that on NASIOC, since Subaru clearly doesn't pay attention to this site. :(

I don't see SOA charging more to charge more. Either they will be very similar in price and features, or the BRZ will come with more features and cost more to account for that.