Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23)
-   -   why is Subaru spokesperson Michael McHale concern (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238)

4agze 12-17-2009 11:21 PM

why is Subaru spokesperson Michael McHale concern
 
I dont get it why michael Mchale saying this, so the subaru version wont be AWD?

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/17/r...u-could-dilut/

OldSkoolToys 12-17-2009 11:46 PM

Quote:

Wouldn't want to mess with that formula that has kept their total USA sales to less than 1/3 of that the Toyota Corolla alone enjoys...
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaaha!

Burn.

Matador 12-18-2009 12:00 AM

- Why couldn't Subaru develop/engineer their own version if they are so concerned about they brand image?

- I think it will do better for them than they think.


Translation "we can't make a good looking design and Toyota will outsell us 5-1, so we are going to bitch and moan"

RegisBou 12-18-2009 02:28 AM

if subaru keeps it RWD it will broaden their line up and most likely spike sales.

option of 4wd 3200lb 250whp

or RWD 2800lb 220whp? assuming an STI version with "250hp"

atleast loyal scooby owners can have a fun week-end car on the side too

S2KtoFT86 12-18-2009 10:15 AM

What a doosh, "forgive us a one-off exception".

ichitaka05 12-18-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegisBou (Post 6118)
or RWD 2800lb 220whp? assuming an STI version with "250hp"

250 for STI ver? No way. They gonna have at least 280hp. All the STI series had 280hp or more. Maybe GT gonna have 250~260hp.

4agze 12-18-2009 08:25 PM

If subaru's version is much better regarding if its has a AWD or RWD I may get it.

GT 12-18-2009 11:24 PM

I think Subaru should t/c their version and make it rwd and price it a bit higher than the Toyota version that way their sales won't overlap one another.... hopefully. Like everyone has already said shouldn't Subaru have thought out how to implement AWD before making the prototype/dimensions etc.

OldSkoolToys 12-19-2009 01:26 AM

I think when Toyota said "we want you guys to help with a RWD car. We'll use a bunch of parts supplied by you and your engine, and we'll do the selling" Subaru was more than obliged to do so.

Subaru makes money off Toyota selling these things too y'know. I'm sure when they were approached, they understood that Toyota could shove these cars out onto the streets better than they could.

IMHO, Subaru needs a re-freshing in their lineup anyways. Just because its Subaru doesn't mean it has to be AWD. People act like there's some world law out there that prohibits the car company from making anything else.

1660 12-19-2009 01:28 AM

FT86 is a product extension for Toyota, that would require little in terms of Toyota resources. I don't think it was meant for Subaru, otherwise it would be a Subaru and not a Toyota.:bonk:

White Comet 12-19-2009 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 6179)
250 for STI ver? No way. They gonna have at least 280hp. All the STI series had 280hp or more. Maybe GT gonna have 250~260hp.

Not if it's not boosted, it won't.

If it IS boosted, well... that's a different story.

Matador 12-19-2009 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 6194)
I think when Toyota said "we want you guys to help with a RWD car. We'll use a bunch of parts supplied by you and your engine, and we'll do the selling" Subaru was more than obliged to do so.

Subaru makes money off Toyota selling these things too y'know. I'm sure when they were approached, they understood that Toyota could shove these cars out onto the streets better than they could.


This. Doesn't matter which one sells more, sales overlap would be irrelevant. They are going to be produced at the same factory, on the same lines, the only important thing is that they sell. Both Subaru and Toyota will rake in cash.

Dimman 12-19-2009 04:24 PM

I think Toyota owns at least 20% of Subaru anyways so this isn't really a one model deal and they make money off all Subaru sales.

Question I have is this boxer motor EJ-based? (Swap potential?)

Matador 12-19-2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 6236)
I think Toyota owns at least 20% of Subaru anyways so this isn't really a one model deal and they make money off all Subaru sales.

Question I have is this boxer motor EJ-based? (Swap potential?)


Supposedly. I'm Guessing that whether or not it is, an EJ25T swap will be a walk in the park (Toyota ECU permitting :mad0259:).


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:49 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.