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Jamifra 12-13-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 607032)
I used a set of Goodridge SS brake lines meant for the BRZ, so I am sure you can get the Stoptechs to work as well. The 04 sti rotors will work in the front because they are drilled for 5x100, but not in the rear is my understanding.


i have a question.. that are the specs on your wheels?

i have volk te37sl 18x8.5 35 offset in the front. does the rims clear the brembo?

King Tut 12-13-2012 09:47 PM

I would think those would clear. I have 18x8 +42s.

Longhorn248 12-14-2012 02:26 AM

Very nice job!

CrazyWookiee 12-14-2012 02:56 AM

Looks great! Matches the car perfectly.

omegared19 12-17-2012 02:25 PM

Ok, Tut, love the work/look. I'm working on it as we speak. Did your used caliper set come with the original carriers/brackets to bolt up to the knuckle, or are you able to use the BRZ carriers?

OrbitalEllipses 12-17-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by omegared19 (Post 613511)
Ok, Tut, love the work/look. I'm working on it as we speak. Did your used caliper set come with the original carriers/brackets to bolt up to the knuckle, or are you able to use the BRZ carriers?

There are no brackets for these; they mount using the dog-ears on the caliper. Spacing between boltholes on the dog-ears should be the same as the knuckle. Any brackets that came with your STI calipers are merely futile attempts by Subaru to make the calipers quieter.

Hotlinked image:
http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/hosting/...ng/brembos.jpg
The brackets are integrated into the structure of the caliper.

More hotlink:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5376/brembo.jpg
The circled portions are brackets that mount to the rear between the knuckle and caliper; they are harmonic dampeners that Subaru used in an attempt to make the calipers more livable.

omegared19 12-17-2012 02:45 PM

Good to know. This is going to make things a lot easier.

Next question, are the brake lines the same or do I need to get a conversion kit?
(ie: is the Brembo side of the braided line different than the factory BRZ side?)

OrbitalEllipses 12-17-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by omegared19 (Post 613554)
Good to know. This is going to make things a lot easier.

Next question, are the brake lines the same or do I need to get a conversion kit?
(ie: is the Brembo side of the braided line different than the factory BRZ side?)

I used 04 STI brake lines on my WRX stock calipers....so YMMV. Don't know if the banjo is the same, but I'd venture it is. Buy aftermarket BRZ lines and see if they fit, if not...return or sell.

King Tut 12-18-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegared19 (Post 613554)
Next question, are the brake lines the same or do I need to get a conversion kit?
(ie: is the Brembo side of the braided line different than the factory BRZ side?)

I used brake lines meant for the BRZ so that the lengths would be correct. I have never seen STI brake lines, so I didn't know if they would work. The banjo bolt and threads are the same for the Brembo calipers and OEM BRZ calipers, but the brake line won't line up like it is intended to on the calipers due to each caliper having different notches on the back of the caliper for the hard line to rest on.

GTB/ZR-1 12-27-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 613544)
There are no brackets for these; they mount using the dog-ears on the caliper. Spacing between boltholes on the dog-ears should be the same as the knuckle.

Guys, I actually think there will be a possible weight-savings w/ lighter rotors. I did some math--hope this helps some of you...

The stock front calipers & caliper brackets are 11.6lbs--the STi caliper is 8.7. So, if you can find a rotor lighter than the stock 86 rotors 17lbs(Girodiscs are 16.5lbs), there'd be an overall weight-savings of abt 3.4lbs/corner.

On the rears, the STi calipers are 5.9lbs, compared to 5.8lbs stock--so a push, there. But the rotors would net you just over 2lbs/corner.
Total drop in rotational/unprung ~11lbs--not bad.

Granted, it's definitely pricier, but if you can come across all the parts used & priced right... Just throwing it out there. :thumbsup:

OrbitalEllipses 12-27-2012 01:54 PM

^2PC rotors are $700/pair and that's really the only way to drop mass from those heavy rotors. Once at that price point I'd just consider an aftermarket BBK made for the car; though I have yet to see one I like that is also good DD material.

kurbkilla 12-27-2012 02:36 PM

Thanks for the write up this is the type of brake upgrade im looking to 4 piston front/2 rear. Is it possible to fleash out the steps more with pics and then pin it?

kmbkk 12-29-2012 08:21 PM

How hard woulod it be to get the STI logo off the calipers? I may go this route, but don't think the STI logo would look right on an FR-S.

King Tut 12-30-2012 08:33 PM

The STI logo is painted on so you would have to sand it off or repaint over


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