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FRS2000 11-25-2012 10:19 PM

Important: DBA Rear Rotors (BRZ/FR-S)
 
Be advised if you ordered DBA rear rotors or plan on doing so you'll need
to confirm you have the correct rear rotors for BRZ/FR-S.
I received non-vented 4000 series rotors (42659S)...these are wrong for FR-S
For the 4000 series, you'll need DBA42663S...these are vented ones for FR-S.
They were just released by DBA.
Note: BRZ comes with either vented(limited) or non-vented(premium) rears


[COLOR=#3A352A!important]Toyota 86GTS
Toyota GT86
SCION FR-S
Subaru BRZ Premium
Subaru BRZ Sport
[/COLOR]


Rear Disc Brake Rotors NOW available




Part Details:



DBA2663S - Street Series T2 slotted



DBA42663 - HD 4000 series standard finish



DBA42663S - CLUBSPEC 4000 series T3 slotted



DBA42663XS - CLUBSPEC 4000 series XS

FT-86 SpeedFactory 11-27-2012 07:14 PM

I was going to say these have not been out until very recently.

We run the fronts on our car and soon the rears. DBA is top notch!

86drift 11-28-2012 07:21 PM

The 42659S are rear discs for the lower spec cars delivered in Aus, Jap, etc.
4648S is the part number for the lower spec front discs.


Quote:

Originally Posted by FRS2000 (Post 574457)
Be advised if you ordered DBA rear rotors or plan on doing so you'll need
to confirm you have the correct rear rotors for BRZ/FR-S.
I received non-vented 4000 series rotors (42659S)...these are wrong.
For the 4000 series, you'll need DBA42663S...these are vented ones.
They were just released by DBA.


[COLOR=#3A352A!important]Toyota 86GTS
Toyota GT86
SCION FR-S
Subaru BRZ Premium
Subaru BRZ Sport
[/COLOR]


Rear Disc Brake Rotors NOW available




Part Details:



DBA2663S - Street Series T2 slotted



DBA42663 - HD 4000 series standard finish



DBA42663S - CLUBSPEC 4000 series T3 slotted



DBA42663XS - CLUBSPEC 4000 series XS


FT-86 SpeedFactory 12-03-2012 11:35 AM

BTW, I followed up with DBA and the rears will not be ready until March for the USA Market.

FRS2000 12-05-2012 12:16 AM

BRZ/FR-S Rear Rotors
 
My understanding...
US Limited BRZ has vented rear rotors
US Premium BRZ has non-vented rotors
US FR-S has vented rear rotors

tonystewart 07-15-2013 04:38 PM

Rallysport Direct will be stocking the DBA42663S - CLUBSPEC 4000 series T3 slotted in a couple of weeks

Admiral Ballsy 07-15-2013 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRS2000 (Post 591290)
My understanding...
US Limited BRZ has vented rear rotors
US Premium BRZ has non-vented rotors
US FR-S has vented rear rotors

All US cars have the same brake hardware.

Draco-REX 07-15-2013 06:31 PM

If you check the DBA book it lists different rotors for the Limited and Premium. I ordered a full set for my limited and they were ALL WRONG. The rears were not vented and the fronts were about an inch too small.

The DB in DBA stands for Don't Bother.

Oh, and I'll also add that the vents in the front rotors were radial. They weren't the "Kangaroo Paw" that DBA promotes.

tonystewart 07-15-2013 10:02 PM

I must be lucky, Rallysport Direct took care of my fronts.

Admiral Ballsy 07-15-2013 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 1071343)
The rears were not vented and the fronts were about an inch too small.

The smaller front/solid rear setup is used on the low-content cars in some markets (Australia being one) - the ones with the 16" wheels.

Draco-REX 07-15-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ballsy (Post 1072035)
The smaller front/solid rear setup is used on the low-content cars in some markets (Australia being one) - the ones with the 16" wheels.

Unfortunately, they are marketed to the US market as the appropriate parts in both their published jobber catalog and our in-house EPC. Needless to say, I was peeved when I wasted an afternoon due to this. I was going to keep a matched set of track pads and rotors, but instead I just sent them all back and re-bedded my street pads on my stock blanks.

FRS2000 07-16-2013 01:43 AM

DBA rears
 
thanks for the heads up on rallysport direct... been waiting awhile for the vented rears for my frs.

FRS2000 07-16-2013 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 1071343)
If you check the DBA book it lists different rotors for the Limited and Premium. I ordered a full set for my limited and they were ALL WRONG. The rears were not vented and the fronts were about an inch too small.

The DB in DBA stands for Don't Bother.

Oh, and I'll also add that the vents in the front rotors were radial. They weren't the "Kangaroo Paw" that DBA promotes.

** I verified that the Brz has different rear rotors available between premium and limited models. I checked both at the dealership. I haven't confirmed the fronts though.
FYI: I contacted DBA directly in Australia... they have good customer service.

tonystewart 07-16-2013 09:35 AM

Horsepower Direct has them as well

Kodename47 07-16-2013 04:16 PM

Is it worth listing the right front disc part numbers to complete the thread?

tonystewart 07-16-2013 04:31 PM

DBA 4000 Series T-Slot Slotted Front Rotor 4650S are the ones I installed on FRS

wparsons 07-16-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRS2000 (Post 1072422)
** I verified that the Brz has different rear rotors available between premium and limited models. I checked both at the dealership. I haven't confirmed the fronts though.
FYI: I contacted DBA directly in Australia... they have good customer service.

Not sure about the rest of the world, but Canadian BRZ's have the exact same brakes on both trim lines. I've looked at both in person, both have vented rears and the same diameter fronts.

Draco-REX 07-16-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRS2000 (Post 1072422)
** I verified that the Brz has different rear rotors available between premium and limited models. I checked both at the dealership. I haven't confirmed the fronts though.
FYI: I contacted DBA directly in Australia... they have good customer service.

I find that very surprising. Still, doesn't change the part numbers for the Limited which are wrong.

Admiral Ballsy 07-16-2013 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 1074090)
I find that very surprising.

I did too. Then I confirmed that it's not true.

Here are pictures of the rear brakes on a 2013 Premium sitting on the local dealer's lot - the same vented discs as on all US-market cars:

Wonderbar 07-16-2013 06:24 PM

Does Dba make 2-piece rotors for us yet?

Draco-REX 07-16-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ballsy (Post 1074096)
I did too. Then I confirmed that it's not true.

Here are pictures of the rear brakes on a 2013 Premium sitting on the local dealer's lot - the same vented discs as on all US-market cars:

That's what I thought.

OrbitalEllipses 07-16-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 1074156)
That's what I thought.

We have the 2010+ LGT rear rotor in the US on all of our trims.

Admiral Ballsy 07-16-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1074158)
We have the 2010+ LGT rear rotor in the US on all of our trims.

Or WRX, or...well, several cars use it, anyway. There is no "Legacy GT" anymore, is there?

OrbitalEllipses 07-16-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ballsy (Post 1074168)
Or WRX, or...well, several cars use it, anyway. There is no "Legacy GT" anymore, is there?

Different from the WRX rear rotor by a couple millimeters. It's the 2010 LGT rotor; there was an LGT through 2012.

Wonderbar 07-16-2013 06:44 PM

Our ebrake is larger than the wrx. 2004 sti rear rotors work for us.

OrbitalEllipses 07-16-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderbar (Post 1074188)
Our ebrake is larger than the wrx. 2004 sti rear rotors work for us.

Why would it [2004 STI rotor] fit...? Completely different hat offset, but has the right parking brake diameter (190mm). 2010+ Legacy GT rotor = our rotor.

Wonderbar 07-16-2013 06:47 PM

Because that with the Subaru 2-pot rear caliper and brackets is what I will be running.

OrbitalEllipses 07-16-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderbar (Post 1074196)
Because that with the Subaru 2-pot rear caliper and brackets is what I will be running.

Okay, so it fits in a specific application that does not relate to the thread at hand (which is replacement rotors)? Not trying to give you a hard time, but this thread already has a ton of misinformation.

Admiral Ballsy 07-16-2013 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1074181)
Different from the WRX rear rotor by a couple millimeters. It's the 2010 LGT rotor; there was an LGT through 2012.

Yeah, you're right. But I'm pretty sure the two are interchangeable (isn't one like 316mm and the other 312mm?) in practice, and I know some aftermarket sources list the same part for both applications.

It's used on turbo Foresters too.

OrbitalEllipses 07-16-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Ballsy (Post 1074356)
Yeah, you're right. But I'm pretty sure the two are interchangeable (isn't one like 316mm and the other 312mm?) in practice, and I know some aftermarket sources list the same part for both applications.

It's used on turbo Foresters too.

Here's some Centric diagrams:
2013 BRZ:
http://i42.tinypic.com/dyrjbn.jpg

2010 LGT:
http://i40.tinypic.com/11j3x2r.jpg

2008+ WRX:
http://i39.tinypic.com/1f9utv.jpg

2008+ STI:
http://centriccatalog.com/part_images/12547030.jpg

Note that the 2008+ WRX does not have vented rears.

Kodename47 07-17-2013 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 1074090)
I find that very surprising. Still, doesn't change the part numbers for the Limited which are wrong.

I don't understand the confusion. In Australia where they do have a model with the smaller brakes then they are listed correctly and seeing as they are an Australian company I can understand that they would provide listings for these. Have you considered they may not have been aware that the American models are different? You just have to be aware of this when ordering from overseas. This isn't uncommon, we regularly have the same issue over here when buying from you lot over the pond ;)

Draco-REX 07-17-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 1075397)
I don't understand the confusion. In Australia where they do have a model with the smaller brakes then they are listed correctly and seeing as they are an Australian company I can understand that they would provide listings for these. Have you considered they may not have been aware that the American models are different? You just have to be aware of this when ordering from overseas. This isn't uncommon, we regularly have the same issue over here when buying from you lot over the pond ;)

If I were ordering from an Austrailian vendor, I would accept that. But I think you missed my post where I said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX
Unfortunately, they are marketed to the US market as the appropriate parts in both their published jobber catalog and our in-house EPC.

And might I also remind you, these are the low-spec rotors and they are listed for the Limited which is the top-spec in this market. I didn't order them for a Premium.

And do we know if the correct rotors have the "Kangaroo Paw" vanes?

Kodename47 07-17-2013 02:42 PM

Might just be a case of the US vendor using the Australian EPC etc. I doubt that DBA themselves would change that so you can't really blame DBA.

I thought the cooling vanes would be used on all vented discs. Seeing as the incorrect ones you had were not ventilated discs then that'd be why they didn't have the kangaroo paw vanes (I'd assume).

Draco-REX 07-17-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 1076376)
Might just be a case of the US vendor using the Australian EPC etc. I doubt that DBA themselves would change that so you can't really blame DBA.

I thought the cooling vanes would be used on all vented discs. Seeing as the incorrect ones you had were not ventilated discs then that'd be why they didn't have the kangaroo paw vanes (I'd assume).

Fronts were vented with radial vanes.

There was a * by the "Kangaroo Paw" picture on the box that said not all rotors have those. So, ultimately, if a particular set of rotors don't have their special vane design (which I would like since it increases surface area for cooling) then there's no reason to get the DBAs.

I'm just saying that due to their lack of due diligence, I had an afternoon go pear-shaped on me when I dicovered halfway through a full brake job that the rotors I ordered were 100% not what I was expecting. Wrong size, improper venting, and not even the DBA venting design. That completely soured me to the brand.

I guess my point is, double-check everything because you can't be sure they've verified the fitment. And if the rotors don't have the DBA "Kangaroo Paw" then don't pay extra for them.

Kodename47 07-17-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 1076754)
I guess my point is, double-check everything because you can't be sure they've verified the fitment. And if the rotors don't have the DBA "Kangaroo Paw" then don't pay extra for them.

Actually that was very much what I was trying to say ;) and hopefully this thread with correct part numbers for front and rear should prevent the same thing from occurring.

Van anyone confirm that he 4000 series front and rear disc come with the kangaroo paw ventilation? @FT-86 SpeedFactory?

tonystewart 07-17-2013 09:08 PM

Kangaroo Paw Confirmed on the front FRS DBA 4650S


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