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plucas 02-04-2013 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by robispec (Post 711296)
SO here are some picts and info on our SUPER HEAVY DUTY COLLING UPGRADE
we are ready to go to market with these this week.
At Robispec we are fans of extra credit work and so we went to an "overkill cooling solution" stock radiator is 15mm core we replace this with 2 25mm tube core add a liquid to liquid oil cooler in the "cold side tank" and have less than 2 feet of total lines to complete the whole "kit".
The best thing about this is that you dont need to thermostaticly control the oil temp (a big potential problem with the Air to liquid cooler solutions) as the water thermostat does this for you and actually heats the oil faster during warm up then stabilizes it to run about 20-30 degrees hotter than the water temp. this is better in many ways than the current kits on the market.
1. lighter overall
2. short hose runs,minimal resistance to flow = no extra strain on the stock oil pump
3. "fixes" the Water cooling issues sure to develop with the stock radiator.
4. Uses existing cooling airflow and leaves fender locations for brake ducting
5. With low profile fans ADDS space in front of the engine for turbo/SC piping

can use stock A/C with this.
NO cutting plastec to mount
Cold air over the top as needed
STOCK mounting points used
OVER TRIPLE THE COOLING CAPACITY and an extra Qt of engine oil.
takes 2 hours to install
total system cost Radiator oilcooler takeoff plates hoses, an fittings, fans
EVERYTHING INCLUDED for John Q Public to install $1,195.00

Look for the group buy to save money on the first ten of these.

Robi

That is not a Nascar core btw.

robispec 02-04-2013 07:29 PM
This core is used in the NASCAR sanctioned events across the country in the asphalt modified division...I agree with you is is not a C&R 2500.00 radiator for the "show" on tv. Still nascar guys I agree it is tripple "A" ball, but still the same sactioning body. It has almost the same air resistance as the stock radiator and frontal area, has 2 25mm tubes in place of the single 18mm tube of the stock radiator. My cars fans used come on all the time now they never switch on...so we must be doing something right and oil temps dropped DRAMATICLY.

plucas 02-04-2013 07:41 PM
It is just a little misleading imo to say it is a nascar core. The technology and quality of cores in nascar is way different than the ones in nascar sanctioned events.

Not trying to hate, just don't want people being accidentally mislead.

robispec 02-04-2013 07:52 PM
agreed. I'm not trying to mislead people either. But People need to understand that the term "nascar" can cover your local every other friday night dirt 1/2 mile series up to to Daytona. If someone is paying 1200 for a radiator with a heat exchanger fans and wiring built in small #'s and thinking they can bolt it into Jeff Gordons car I think they are misleading themselves.. that said These "cores" routinely cool 650 HP v8's haulling around 3000 lb cars...

DEnd 02-04-2013 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by plucas (Post 711415)
It is just a little misleading imo to say it is a nascar core. The technology and quality of cores in nascar is way different than the ones in nascar sanctioned events.

Not trying to hate, just don't want people being accidentally mislead.
Really? :lol:
It's a friggin Radiator. Sprint Cup guys don't run anything "special."

ATL BRZ 02-04-2013 10:55 PM
Thumbs up to this build and two thumbs up to the radiator/oil cooler combo. Looks like it would make any N/A car bulletproof on the track, and any FI car it would keep temps under control and be a great mod for durability.

plucas 02-04-2013 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DEnd (Post 711871)
Really? :lol:
It's a friggin Radiator. Sprint Cup guys don't run anything "special."
Have you seen one up close? Compared them to others? It is not "just a friggin radiator"...:thumbdown:

There is is huge difference in quality from the average aftermarket core... But I am sure you are a heat exchanger specialist :rolleyes:



Awesome car overall man. I like people who focus on the important parts of cars like handling :thumbup:

wootwoot 02-04-2013 11:32 PM
Any idea when the radiator/oil cooler will be available?

Evasive Motorsports 02-05-2013 12:55 AM
nice car Robi glad to meet you at the dyno day!

-Randy

Gixxersixxerman 02-05-2013 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by plucas (Post 711415)
It is just a little misleading imo to say it is a nascar core. The technology and quality of cores in nascar is way different than the ones in nascar sanctioned events.

Not trying to hate, just don't want people being accidentally mislead.
Well I happen to be a huge NASCAR fan and seen a couple sprint cup cars built.. And know that C&R racing incorporated custom builds the cores and tanks to each teams specs.. But any one can order a custom built core from the, if you have the cash, as the ones for say restrictor plate racing at Daytona or talladega are not the same as say like Bristol or even Michigan.. And I've seen very very very expensive rads...

http://www.crracing.com/radiators

And just because it isn't sprint cup, doesn't mean it's not NASCAR.. Even the Canadian tire series is now a NASCAR sanctioned event.. It even owns grand-am now

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR"]NASCAR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

robispec 02-05-2013 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Evasive Motorsports (Post 712176)
nice car Robi glad to meet you at the dyno day!

-Randy
thanks nice to see your shop!
any Idea what the highest dyno # was on the NA cars? I got 179/145
and was the highest at the time.

Robi

DEnd 02-05-2013 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by plucas (Post 711900)
Have you seen one up close? Compared them to others? It is not "just a friggin radiator"...:thumbdown:

There is is huge difference in quality from the average aftermarket core... But I am sure you are a heat exchanger specialist :rolleyes:



Awesome car overall man. I like people who focus on the important parts of cars like handling :thumbup:
The main difference between an average aluminum aftermarket radiator and one used in sprint cup cars is that the sprint cup radiators are sized specifically for each track and engine, though probably less so since NASCAR reduced the size of the radiator allowed. But there really isn't a huge quality or technology difference between what you can easily get in the aftermarket (though not all aftermarket radiators are equal), and what the big guys run.

wootwoot 02-05-2013 07:01 PM
Would this type of unit over-cool the car in a street/track application?

EarlQHan 02-05-2013 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DEnd (Post 712677)
The main difference between an average aluminum aftermarket radiator and one used in sprint cup cars is that the sprint cup radiators are sized specifically for each track and engine, though probably less so since NASCAR reduced the size of the radiator allowed. But there really isn't a huge quality or technology difference between what you can easily get in the aftermarket (though not all aftermarket radiators are equal), and what the big guys run.
i've seen the cores in person, they're quite different. plucas designs those sprint car radiators as a day job. i don't think he needs you to tell him what his job entails ;)


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