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-   -   Anyone using a 4-pt harness with stock seats? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22637)

gmookher 11-21-2012 05:09 PM

Post pic of cg lock?

Miniata 11-21-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 569116)
Post pic of cg lock?

http://cg-lock.com/

I have CG-Locks in my Miata and Mustang. Ran a long track day at Mid-Ohio earlier this year in the Mustang, which has much less supportive seats than the BRZ, and it held me in place very well. Never wished I had a 4-pt or 5-pt harness on track. I also have a Schroth 4-pt in my Mini, but for autocross only.

WolfsFang 11-22-2012 10:54 PM

Never EVER get a roll bar like this for a DD (http://www.autopowerindustries.com/I...g/DSC_2942.jpg). I have seen one bend in half from a rear collision. The bend ended where the front passenger was and he ended up cracking his head on it. Also never run a full cage on a DD unless you like to wear a helmet every time you drive.

mike2100 11-28-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Surok (Post 568183)

Way too low

celica73 11-28-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 579297)
Way too low

And, yet, if you actually read the instructions for a Schroth Rallye 4, that is EXACTLY where they tell you to mount it.

2point0 11-30-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 566880)
if you find you're sliding around get a CGLOCK or just brace with your foot

I can't comment on the rest, but I have A CGLock and it does not work in this car. The buckle is so fat that the jaws don't go around it. Maybe with some longer screws, it's doable.

Maybe there's a newer revision, mine is probably a few years old (given to me by a friend, so no idea).

whataboutbob 11-30-2012 01:59 AM

I just got a new CG lock in the last couple of months and it came with 3 different sets of screws. Can't remember which I ended up using, but it works fine for DD and AutoX for me.

Picked it up here: http://www.theracersstore.com/

simpleisbest 11-30-2012 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 582655)
I can't comment on the rest, but I have A CGLock and it does not work in this car. The buckle is so fat that the jaws don't go around it. Maybe with some longer screws, it's doable.

Maybe there's a newer revision, mine is probably a few years old (given to me by a friend, so no idea).

CGLock works just fine. If you can't get it working, either your using the wrong screws or your doing it wrong. Mine works just fine and its almost 3yrs old.

2point0 11-30-2012 12:50 PM

Makes sense now. Mine was given to me so there were no extra screws. Home Depot to the rescue!

sirwin 01-18-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 570885)
Never EVER get a roll bar like this for a DD (http://www.autopowerindustries.com/I...g/DSC_2942.jpg). I have seen one bend in half from a rear collision. The bend ended where the front passenger was and he ended up cracking his head on it. Also never run a full cage on a DD unless you like to wear a helmet every time you drive.


What is a DD? I was looking at these for my FR-S. Advice?

WolfsFang 01-18-2015 06:44 PM

Daily Driver, get a half cage if you really want a good mounting place for your harness, if you dont want a half cage then I would rather bolt the harness to the floor rather just a harness bar if it was me.

sirwin 01-18-2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 2095659)
Daily Driver, get a half cage if you really want a good mounting place for your harness, if you dont want a half cage then I would rather bolt the harness to the floor rather just a harness bar if it was me.

Thanks. Was looking at that autopower one, but removing the harness bar, or even the whole thing when not on track.

sirwin 01-18-2015 09:16 PM

see above, and PS, just google half-cage, came up empty, what do you suggest?

rgolom 02-03-2015 11:43 PM

I installed a Schroth Rallye 4 (4-point harness) into my 2013 FR-S and love it. It uses an anti-submarine system which allows your upper shoulders to rotate slightly and keeps your hips planted in the seat. I have it mounted to the front seatbelt mounting points and the appropriate rear seat lower seatbelt mounting points with all original seat belts still in place.

After a full day on the track at Thunderhill, I have no complaints. I was held in place extremely well and was able to completely relax my body and listen to the car as I drove. I have been doing track and AX events for 7 years and I'm a PCA national instructor and I definitely recommend this particular 4-point harness.

Between the length of the straps and some flex in the seat, a full harness attached to a roll bar is definitely more secure. However, I have a CG lock in my 911 and this 4-point harness is a HUGE improvement.


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