Supposedly it was the clutch and not another PU failure. It still looks bad as he just upgraded to the latest spec.

Hamilton keeps winning races he's not supposed to, that why I think he'll be champion again this year.

He has gotten quite lucky in some of those wins too. I think if Seb would not have made contact, he wouldn't have held on. That and them keeping Bottas out to back Kimi into him.

I wonder who gets screwed more by team orders. Bottas or Raikkeonen??

Latest rumor that Leclerc and Raikkonen swap places with Raikkonen beginning to work behind the scenes at Sauber with a stake in ownership.

#imokwiththis

Beyond the Grid podcast exists, listening to my first one now with Mark Webber, 10/10 halfway through so I expect I'll think it's 20/10 when I'm done. Although now he's talking about selling clothes so meh.

Webber talks on Rosberg, Vettel, Schumacher, Williams, missed opportunities with Renault and Ferrari -

https://youtu.be/PwpKwbiGyFA

Is anyone following Euro F3? Why is Mick Schumacher suddenly so strong, the team is good, or is it just his driving?

Well, his teammate Robert Schwartzman picked up pace too.
So Team Prema just won team championship.

Another race...

Another Mercedes 1-2, another dumb mistake by Vettel (bonus: another Vettel move to block his teammate causing a competitor to get past both of them), another bad strategy call by Ferrari, another crash by Stroll, another dumb move by Grosjean, another failure of Gasly to get anywhere near his teammate, another last place finish for Kubica.

Am I missing anything?

Nope sums up the 2019 season so far.


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Maybe we need the old (young?) Verstappen back to spice things up.

RIP Niki Lauda

Someone at Ferrari needs to get fired. Wtf.

I actually called Verstappen's move at the end of the race 5 laps ahead of the dive up the inside.

Start with firing Vettle, then the new french driver.......replace with Danica Patrick and Milka Duno.


Then Hire Mater as crew chief.....


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Calling it now.... RIC podium finish after first lap Merc/Ferrari contact

You were wrong.

I meant in France

I know this is BS speculation, but really really want it to be true: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...eclerc-F1-news

one can only hope........

You were still wrong. :thumbsup:

Let the shitty ferrari strategist memes flow.

I think Ferrari needs go back to the drawing board, especially after Hamilton pretty much put it in everyone's face with that last lap. Hard compound tires, plus 30 laps on them, oh hey lets go out and set a lap record and show these other guys what I can really do.

And do what exactly? Make a faster car?

1st strategy should be get rid of Vettel. Good god he ran right to the back of Max.

Revamp their program, dumping Vettel and yes making a faster car. Mercedes is just making this season boring with their dominance.

Leclerc has shown he is a great driver and he would be scary good if he was in a car as good as the Mercedes. I don't think Bottas is that good of a driver, he has just got a great car and team.
Honestly you could put Norris in Bottas's car and I bet he would win.

You don't think Bottas is that good of a driver? It isn't uncommon for him to beat Hamilton, one of the greatest of all time. That's pretty difficult to just dismiss, regardless of the hardware.

Bottas is winning in that car. He likely would have won Silverstone if it wasn't for that safety car giving Ham the free pit stop.

Hamilton will go down as one of the best of all time, no doubt about it. My point about Bottas is Mercedes is so far ahead of the field in equipment and team management, that you could put many other drivers in his car and be just as good as Bottas.
There is multiple drivers with Bottas skill but just not as good of car as he drives.

Silverstone I really think Hamilton would have taken him if they hadn't backed him off in the early going. The early battle it was all Bottas could do to keep Hamilton behind him, but while they were battling the field was staying close. Once Hamilton backed off they distanced the rest of the field pretty quick.

Back to the original question, yes Ferrari needs a faster car.

In qualifying, Bottas has been very close to or even sometimes beating Lewis, which is impressive considering Hamilton's is definitely top tier in qualy.

However where Bottas fallls down is race pace. For example in Britian, Hamilton not only managed a 1-stop, but put in the fastest lap of the race on 30+ lap old hards (!!!) Bottas on the other hand, needed to stop twice. Even if there was no safety car, Bottas didn't seem to have enough margin and pace to catch and pass Hamilton after the second stop.

I'm sure Ferrari is attempting to make a faster car as I type. Turns out, that's not easy.

I wouldn't describe the season as boring. Just ignore Mercedes and you have a great race most weeks.

I think Merc's low rake/long wheelbase setup plays nicer with the 2019 tire. Understanding the tire and getting it in the window seems to be the theme this season.

So.... Ocon to Haas for 2020?

Ocon is tied to every rumor.

Ferrari dead before the race even starts.

Could be a really fun race to watch though, will be the first time in awhile where it is Red Bull against Mercedes with all 4 drivers.

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WOW

Just finished watching my recording of the race... What in the flying F*** did I just watch? I mean that in a good way, but seriously wtf!?!

Also, stewards are dumb AF again. How in the hell do you just fine Ferrari for almost causing a pit lane crash, then give Hamilton a penalty for taking his broken car in to be fixed? Pick one and be consistent.

That was fun to watch, though I agree with the point about once again inconsistency with the penalties. Pit road safety should be the biggest concern, those mechanics are completely exposed.
I think Hamilton made the right call, if he goes all the way around the track the only thing he is going to do is drop debris everywhere.

So predictions on Bottas next year? As long as he has a decent race in Hungary I'm gonna say another 1-year contract at Merc.

Stays with Merc even if he drops off. It's not like they have any other options. Ocon is not THAT good. Russel has such a crap car it's hard to judge his abilities.

Yea I agree. I feel like they're fine with a solid #2 driver that doesn't cause the team internal conflict every other race. As long as he can bring it home in P2 he should be okay.