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Amazing first 10laps!
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Very fun beginning and end, McLaren was trying to have it's own version of Malaysia, entertainment was everywhere today.
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Anyway Monaco is tomorrow! Interesting first three rows.... Rossberg and Hamilton lock out 1 and 2, Vettel and Webber take 3 and 4, and Kimi and Alonso round out 5 and 6..... I predict Alonso will get a swift start and immediately pass Webber who can't start well to save his life. Depending on how ballsy he gets on opening lap, he could also take Kimi and be right up on Vettel too. The pair of Mercs will probably only hold their lead because it's so hard to pass on the tight street circuit, leaving their slower pace to hold up Vettel and leave him within striking distance for Alonso, who I am wholeheartedly rooting for to win! Poor Massa has quite an uphill battle from the back of the pack, but with a good setup, ideal conditions, and perhaps some yellows to slow the field down, he could move up quite a bit (not unlike Vettel in Abu Dhabi last year). Either way, it will make for a very interesting race tomorrow! Looking forward to a great battle! |
it was a great race, just wish they had shown kimi in the last few laps(I was watching the timing on the bottom of the screen) that would've been more exciting to watch than what they were showing
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So happy for Nico, one of my favorites, winning on the 30th anniversary of his father's win in his home town and a first for Mercedes.
Nico dominated with pole, lead every lap, and made tremendous restarts that controlled the pace to match tire wear. Also pleased to see him nearly silence the arrogant Vettel who, after quali, brushed off the Mercedes pole (Nico's 3rd in a row) as yet another fluke and as sore loser called the Mercedes twins "buses" slowing him down. So glad I recorded the two programs following the FiOS schedule just in case of delays. It worked out after the safety cars and red flags. Great race, phenomenal venue, would've been perfect had Kimi made the podium. Any predictions for Montreal up next? That will test Mercedes tire management that's still unproven. I'm going with Kimi. Montreal is his kind of circuit and he's under the radar with so much focus on the resurgent Alonso but must up his potential value to Red Bull in his final season with Lotus should Webber retire. Great competitive season barely underway, but am already looking forward to the 2014 season with return of the turbo cars. |
Love that Nico absolutely destroyed it, but I would have liked to see SOMETHING going on with the other top 10 drivers. The only place changes were when RB undercut Hamilton out of the pits under safety car (how, again??), and Perez driving like an absolute idiot. The real shining star of he day, besides Nico, has to be Sutil. He drove that little Force India the way Perez SHOULD have been driving his McLaren, as in, overtaking people smoothly and without forcing them off the course or hitting them. As an Alonso and Ferrari fan, it was a hard day to watch, but there was still a lot to see. Looking forward to Canada!
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Sutil's progress this season shows remarkable mental strength handling adversity beyond his control. Good to see his clean passes especially compared to Perez's insanity.
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Plus, Alonso has had lots of success moving up the pack. His qualis are never really fantastic, but his race day performances are always spot on. In Monaco there's nowhere to go though. Really waiting to see what he does in Canada.... That double outside pass on the first lap of Catalunya was incredible. |
Monaco has always been more show than go. It's the history, legacy and ambiance that make it special, the race is almost secondary. I lived in Europe and followed the circus for a few seasons. I rate Monaco in the top three experiences for fans in attendance, Spa and Silverstone the other two.
Canada will be interesting. Hopefully Pirelli will fix their issues so constructors and drivers won't have to control pace to the least common denominator. |
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Had to admire Ferrari strategy in the Spanish GP, rolling the dice that Alonso could build enough of a lead to account for an extra stop. Brilliant!
I don't think Monaco, with it's slow average speed and tight turns, is a true test of Pirelli durability. The commentators said Pirelli exercised a special test rule and picked Ferrari and M-B to test their updated construction last week but M-B's controlled pace didn't prove anything except to once again show a flash of Vettel's immaturity when he isn't dominant. |
It's truly amazing how the teams strategize to work around any sort of new rules, tire shortcomings, etc.
It'll be interesting to see how everything shakes out w/ the wholesale engine changes coming & how the teams deal w/ the characteristics of the cars in their new iterations. |
So I was really hoping for rain during the Canadian GP but unfortunately it didn't and we got to see the usual Vettel slipping away from everyone else being at the front of the pack (:sigh:). I wonder if Hamilton or Alonso could of won if it was raining....it was great to see Button come from behind the pack to win the GP couple of years ago.
Anyways...on to Silverstone! |
Fun ending to an otherwise marred race today. Would have liked to see Hamilton get a better shot at the win but he sure did everything he could considering the circumstances. Tough way to give up a race for Vettel, he did well but just like alonso had Belgium taken out of his hands this one is taken away from Seb, wonder if it will have the same effect.
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Yeah, fun final 8 laps or so. But man, those Pirelli tyres are crap. There are marbles everywhere and too many punctures yesterday.
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Punctures? Spontaneous bursting, more like! Unheard of in F1 on since Indianapolis 2005.
Vettel got his race taken away right after Belgium last year (alternator in Monza). |
I liked that no one on the podium even pretended to be upset or sad at Vettel's retirement from the race. :P
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Word is that the drivers are taking a stand regarding tire issues--supposedly led by Massa.
We'll see if there's a GP this weekend... FORZA Alonso!!! |
I DVR'd it and watched it today. I thought Silverstone GP was good. A lot of moves and action. Sux there were tire bursting, because I am a Hamilton fan.
Anyone upset Weber is leaving F1? I think once you reach F1 you are at the hype of ALL racing. I know rallying, offroad and other racing classes are hard, but just feel F1 is like racing engineering at it's best. |
I'd be pissed if I were Massa. Given his opening drive he very well could have fought for a podium spot. Other than the exploding tire, he was rocking all Sunday.
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Shameful about the exploding Pirellis. I can't imagine what the driver's were thinking, talk about fearless. Also surprising to hear the crowd erupt in cheers when Vettel retired.
Great finish though, another lap and it could've been Webber on the top step. Sorry to see him go, but smart move to go out with a top tier team and join another top team in Porsche. At least he won't have to make his usual feeble standing starts in sports car racing. |
I stood up and clapped when Vettel retired. The season needs competition. Imagine how much closer Alonso would be if he didn't retire in China or have his DRS fail in Bahrain. This helps bring back some balance. Alonso himself said Vettel was due some bad luck. Look at Fernandos position this time last year, 40 points up, followed by two rough retirements. Lots of race left and Vettel will need more than just speed to get a fourth championship (remember last year he only beat Alonso by 3 points...)
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I was commenting about how nothing bad happens to Vettel, then BOOM his car gets disabled. That. Was. Awesome.
The multiple rear tire failures...not so much. Too many safety car laps. |
Thought it was the other way around! Another F1 forum I read is saying cheering his retirement is poor sportsmanship. Screw Vettel. I want Alonso on top this year!
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I cheered when I saw vettel retire he is my least favourite of the F1 drivers only reason I like red bull is because they had webber(an aussie) there, im interested to see what the investigation into the tires exploding turns up if it was the new bonding Pirelli introduced at Silverstone or was because of the new drains that were added to Silverstone that those divers ran over when they went wide in those corners and cut the tires open
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Yes new champion but not Alonso for me I want Kimmy :party0030: Who do you guys think will get Webbers seat? |
I think Ricciardo will be a good replacement. I don't think Kimi will move to Red Bull to be a second driver to a douche like Vettel.
Go Alonso! |
I'd like Nico Rosberg to come from behind for the Driver's Championship. The Mercedes team is coming alive (extra test days?) and if it weren't for retirements, Nico would be further up the ladder now.
But whoever contests, they'll need to figure out how to keep Vettel within DRS distance during the first few laps or it's over. |
formula 1 goes phat when the drivers are pushing past the boundaries to the point of breaking the car.
Silverstone was a doozie. luvit. |
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Mercedes is Pissed. So Mercedes takes up Pirelli's request to test tires and does that. Then RedBull/Christian Horner (crying babies of F1) take up arms against them. Now everyone's tires explode and people are calling for "open testing with Pirelli"! Wait! You mean you now want that thing Mercedes did earlier in the year that you bitched about and required an International Tribunal??? Ross Brawn should come out an say if Red Bull has a single sliver of dignity and character, they would exclude themselves from the tire testing since they were so adamant against in-season testing and any attempt to participate in this "open tire testing" around the young driver's test (where they can use current cars and drivers) would discredit Christian Horner as team principle and RedBull as a team. Can you tell I hate RedBull. ABV all day long.. A B V Anybody But Vettel |
So the head of Red Bull has said it is a three way race for Webber's seat
Ricardo Raikkonen Vergne I say a two way between Raikkonen and Ricardo it depends on wether or not Vettel has a say as Kimi wont take crap and could out perform him in a Red Bull. As a Kimi fan part of me wants him in a better car but the other part does not want him to play second fiddle to Vettle. German GP about to start hopefully a good race |
Webber's pitstop lap 9 :confused0068:
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Kimi 2nd in German Grand Prix. Yay.
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I bet he is happy to at least finish, and not suffer another broken engine...or wing...or suspension...or a crash. |
The cameraman who got hit by Webber's tire suffered a broken collarbone and ribs. Hope he has a full recovery. Commend those who risk themselves who are not behind the wheel especially in the pit lanes.
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Seems suspicious how flawless Vettel's pit was a few laps earlier... |
I've been a huge Mark Webber fan since his early days and I'm sorry to see him leave F1 without a championship. I really wish he could've had a team that was out supporting him and not V3ttel. I hope he does well in Le Mans and I'm glad I'll still get to follow the Aussie Grit in my 2nd favorite racing series. :)
All that said, Vettel is a talented driver in an amazing car and I don't fault him for that. 3 is enough, although it looks like it'll be four. I don't want to see him pass Schumi's 5-in-a-row. I've always liked Kimi and I'd love to see him show Vettel how it's done. His no bull attitude (Kimi Räikkönen - "I was having a s**t." - YouTube) (NSFW language in that link) is what I've always liked about him. Kimi gets my vote for Red Bull 2014, but they'd have to let him do it his way. He likes where he's at because he gets to do what he wants when he wants... except win championships. |
The moment I saw Mark Webber turning a faster time than Vettel (aka: gaining on him) I knew what was going to happen. The same thing that's been happening to him for 3 years now..
Botched pit stop. I looked over at the G/F and I said: "Just watch hun, they'll botch his pit stop so that he can't race Vettel." Voila! Even when you don't to play the "bitch", RedBull will see to it that you do. It is not Team RedBull. It is Team Vettel. Don't you forget that. If I was a top tier driver (like Kimi) I absolutely would not want to take Webber's spot at RedBull because it will be the same thing for whomever sits in that #2 car. You will be "the bitch" whether you like it or not. And then... to make Red Bull look worse, the cry baby of F1, Christian Horner, who's car was unsafely released from the pits and injured a camera man tries to shift blame and say that all personnel in the pit area should be in fulls safety gear. Last time I checked Christian sits on the pit area and he's not wearing nomex and a helmet and besides, full safety gear wouldn't have kept a tire from hitting the camera man IN THE BACK. The ONLY person at Red Bull that doesn't make my skin crawl is Webber. ABV |
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