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cfusionpm 06-23-2014 03:14 PM

Kind of a boring race once you realized Massa wasn't going to amount to anything because of poor strategy. Another Merc 1-2 without any real battle.

FnFast 06-23-2014 08:24 PM

I am cheering for Hamilton. I think Nico is a great driver, but Lewis best represents Formula 1 I think. Does anyone think Lewis can catch Nico for the Championship?

Poor Vettel though. I really feel bad. Can't get a break. Same thing Webber went through. Surprise to see him at Red Bull's ceremony.

nick_318is 06-23-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FnFast (Post 1812006)
I am cheering for Hamilton. I think Nico is a great driver, but Lewis best represents Formula 1 I think. Does anyone think Lewis can catch Nico for the Championship?

Poor Vettel though. I really feel bad. Can't get a break. Same thing Webber went through. Surprise to see him at Red Bull's ceremony.

I think Lewis can catch Nico, but it's going to take some bad luck on Nico's part or the last race with double points:bonk:

Vettel gets paid by red bull, shouldn't be a surprise.

torqdork 06-25-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kuidaore (Post 1810319)
Not sure if any of you were aware. This weekend was the 24 Hours Nürburgring endurance event. GT86's were present in the SP 3 and V3 classes.

Results here: http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/med...ass__1__01.pdf

Respectable 9:52.243 from an '86!

As for the F1 race, I have to say the GP2 race was far more entertaining and competitive with an American driver, frequent passing in the most unexpected places and the sounds of the good old V-8 days *sigh*.

Silver Ignition 07-07-2014 02:23 PM

Good race at Silverstone this weekend, huh?


LOVED the Alonso/Vettel exchange. Seb is such a child.
Good to see Hammy win it at home and come within 4 points of Rosberg for the championship...sounds like something out of a movie script lol
Bottas is on a roll! Good to see Smiley on the podium too!


All in all a satisfying race.


Buying my tickets for Austin in a week or two!

King Tut 07-07-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 1833279)
LOVED the Alonso/Vettel exchange. Seb is such a child.

Alonso bitched/cried after he was passed by Vettel as well.

rice_classic 07-07-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1833301)
Alonso bitched/cried after he was passed by Vettel as well.

Negative my good sir. Alonso was explaining how the DRS by the following car made his defense impossible and in what turns the advantage/disadvantage was and then he said, "what more, I need to do."

I translate that as him saying he did everything he could and the advantage from the DRS was indefensible.

That's very different to the whining from Vettel about how people won't move out of his way. Vettel hasn't really had to actually "race" anyone over the last 4 years so he's not used cars actually driving defensively. What a rude awakening it must be.

Vettel: You're not a princess and this is a race, he's racing you!



p.s. I still think Vettel should have gotten some kind of penalty or warning for constantly driving out of bounds (4 wheels off) and gaining advantage.

rice_classic 07-07-2014 04:00 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3-ACjgxSno"]F1 2014 British GP - Vettel v Alonso Team Radio - YouTube[/ame]

King Tut 07-07-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 1833514)

What he needs to do is quit his bitching. DRS has been around for years now. The RBR chassis is by far the slowest in a straight line which is the only reason Vettel even had an issue getting past Alonso and once he got around he pulled away. What he needs to do is ask Maranello for a better damn car. Damn Ferrari has made my favorite driver decide to retire after this season. :(

cfusionpm 07-07-2014 04:58 PM

In order to finally pass Alonso, Vettel had to late brake into that corner. That late braking caused him to put all four wheels off the track limits on that corner. I would be rightly pissed myself because that was an advantage gained with four wheels off track after every driver was specifically told before the race there was a zero tolerance policy.

King Tut 07-07-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cfusionpm (Post 1833630)
In order to finally pass Alonso, Vettel had to late brake into that corner. That late braking caused him to put all four wheels off the track limits on that corner. I would be rightly pissed myself because that was an advantage gained with four wheels off track after every driver was specifically told before the race there was a zero tolerance policy.

I guarantee every single driver in that race violated the four wheels off policy including Alonso when Vettel was behind him. Vettel was counting how many times. They didn't apply a penalty to any of the drivers.

cfusionpm 07-07-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1833641)
I guarantee every single driver in that race violated the four wheels off policy including Alonso when Vettel was behind him. Vettel was counting how many times. They didn't apply a penalty to any of the drivers.

If you don't gain an advantage by leaving the track it's usually not an issue. Vettel leaving the track was a direct result from gaining an advantage.

Alonso is not allowed to make more than one "move" to block, and if Vettel can't get around him, that's not Alonso's problem. Given the epic drive he gave in that piece of trash Ferrari, he had every right to keep Vettel behind him.

alxtheoreo 07-07-2014 05:48 PM

I think David Hobbs said it best: "Six world championships have been won between the two. They should know what they're doing."

cfusionpm 07-07-2014 05:58 PM

Vettel probably got away with it because the advantage was gained prior to leaving the track limits. Even though he left the track BECAUSE of that advantage. Probably a gray area up to interpretation of the stewards. Given how strict they were in quali and repeating that strictness before the race, I'm surprised to see Vettels pass stand.


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